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Eichel requests a trade

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Initial Creation Date: Feb 10, 2020
Published: Feb 10 at 2:24 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Miller, Colin
  3. Sobotka, Vladimír
BUF
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Johnsson, Andreas
  4. Kapanen, Kasperi
  5. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Barrie, Tyson
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
VGK
TOR
VGK
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$80,384,777$0$552,500$1,115,223
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 7
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Sobotka, Vladimír
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
$842,500
RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb 10 at 2:24
#1
Pass it to Lucic
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grow up Peter Pan
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Feb 10 at 2:26
#2
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I have a feeling if they traded Eichel to Toronto they would probably want one of Marner, or Matthews.
Feb 10 at 2:29
#3
Go Wings Go
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Not even enough for Jack Eichel, One of either Marner or Matthews would need to be going to Buffalo. Nylander doesn't even move the dial for them.
Feb 10 at 2:30
#4
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Not even enough for Jack Eichel, One of either Marner or Matthews would need to be going to Buffalo. Nylander doesn't even move the dial for them.


Player requesting a trade puts a team in a bad spot. Greatly reduces the return.
Feb 10 at 2:31
#5
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Player requesting a trade puts a team in a bad spot. Greatly reduces the return.


There's a major difference between a player like Biff Bazooper the failing prospect requesting a trade, and a player at the caliber of Eichel requesting a trade.
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Feb 10 at 2:34
#6
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Quoting: mondo
There's a major difference between a player like Biff Bazooper the failing prospect requesting a trade, and a player at the caliber of Eichel requesting a trade.


Also if a player requests a trade it doesnt mean the team HAS to trade them, its called a request.
Feb 10 at 2:34
#7
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Quoting: mondo
There's a major difference between a player like Biff Bazooper the failing prospect requesting a trade, and a player at the caliber of Eichel requesting a trade.


Still greatly reduces the return.
Feb 10 at 2:35
#8
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Please stop.

1. They would not trade him to a divison rival

2. He never said anything

3. Teams want players who are driving the bus and not players who are jumping on us. He is part of that team and therefore also a part of the overall situation
Feb 10 at 2:35
#9
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Player requesting a trade puts a team in a bad spot. Greatly reduces the return.


First off Jack Eichel is an elite talent, Possibly generational player. Those kind of players asking for a trade doesn't diminish their value in the very least.
Feb 10 at 2:36
#10
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Still greatly reduces the return.


No it doesn't? And where is the link where he's requesting a trade out of Buffalo at here.
Feb 10 at 2:36
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Still greatly reduces the return.


The point I was implying is that it does not reduce the return. Eichel is the first line centre on nearly every team in the league.

Quoting: bigZ98
Also if a player requests a trade it doesnt mean the team HAS to trade them, its called a request.


This too.
Feb 10 at 2:38
#12
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Quoting: mondo
There's a major difference between a player like Biff Bazooper the failing prospect requesting a trade, and a player at the caliber of Eichel requesting a trade.


I'll have you know that there's no such mention of Biff Bazooper on any reputable hockey resources site. So I fail to see your analogy.
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Feb 10 at 2:38
#13
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
No it doesn't? And where is the link where he's requesting a trade out of Buffalo at here.


Its hypothetical and it does reduce the return. I'd be happy to trade Marner in a package for Eichel though. Matthew's would need Dahlin coming back with Eichel.
Feb 10 at 2:39
#14
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Look at the return for Kessel
Feb 10 at 2:43
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Its hypothetical and it does reduce the return. I'd be happy to trade Marner in a package for Eichel though. Matthew's would need Dahlin coming back with Eichel.


Dude no it doesn't? It doesn't matter what Eichel wants even if he wants out Botterill doesn't have to deal him unless he gets the kind of return that absolutely blows him away. And your offer doesn't do that. And to say that Matthews value is Eichel+Dahlin is laugh Dahlin by himself is a generational Dman probably close to the next Lidstrom in his prime both Eichel and Dahlin together have more value then Matthews.
Feb 10 at 2:44
#16
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to much quantity , not enough quantity .
requesting a trade may turn some teams off but not when they're a top 10 players in the NHL
only a fool would Consider a world where TML 3rd liners and a late 1st lands Eichel .

that's like if MTL offers TML Domi ,Lehkonen , Armia ,Suzuki, and a 1st for Mathews
Feb 10 at 2:47
#17
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Quoting: Billy739
to much quantity , not enough quantity .
requesting a trade may turn some teams off but not when they're a top 10 players in the NHL
only a fool would Consider a world where TML 3rd liners and a late 1st lands Eichel .

that's like if MTL offers TML Domi ,Lehkonen , Armia ,Suzuki, and a 1st for Mathews


Don't forget Nylander
Feb 10 at 2:48
#18
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Dude no it doesn't? It doesn't matter what Eichel wants even if he wants out Botterill doesn't have to deal him unless he gets the kind of return that absolutely blows him away. And your offer doesn't do that. And to say that Matthews value is Eichel+Dahlin is laugh Dahlin by himself is a generational Dman probably close to the next Lidstrom in his prime both Eichel and Dahlin together have more value then Matthews.


Eichel + Dahlin for Matthews + Dermott and a 1st
Feb 10 at 2:59
#19
Brandon5592
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Not for nothing, but the fact that you have Eichel on the wing in any scenario is hilarious.

It is however cool to see Jack finally getting some love. That guy is an animal. Would need Marner/Matthews+ to make it happen.
Feb 10 at 3:02
#20
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I'll have you know that there's no such mention of Biff Bazooper on any reputable hockey resources site. So I fail to see your analogy.


How does one not know about the legendary average prospect Biff Bazooper? His insanely average statistics are almost unheard of! The analytics community are very high on the guy though....
Feb 10 at 3:07
#21
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Look at the return for Kessel


Because he controlled the destination. Eichel doesn't have a no-trade and you're a divisional rival. You're sending Marner or Matthews or they say no.
Feb 10 at 3:27
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I think posts like this deserve the same infractions that I would get if I posted my honest thoughts in response to this sad joke
Feb 10 at 3:27
#23
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Because he controlled the destination. Eichel doesn't have a no-trade and you're a divisional rival. You're sending Marner or Matthews or they say no.


Eichel is also light years better
Feb 10 at 3:27
#24
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Eichel + Dahlin for Matthews + Dermott and a 1st


Oh my goodness no.
Feb 10 at 3:36
#25
Sabres are elite
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Eichel is better than every player on Toronto, change my mind
 
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