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Team: 2020-21 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2020
Published: Feb. 14, 2020
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.
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    BOS might listen to that trade. Suggest only one pick included (make it a non-cond 2nd)?
    Be hard to re-sign JGP with UFA Krug and RFA Debrusk needing new deals.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.
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    The Rangers want a young roster forward for Georgiev. Realistically, Ottawa doesn't really have that. You might be able to convince them with Drake Batherson and a pick. But even that is questionable.

    I also don't understand why you've paid Georgiev that much and for that long. The track record of young backup goalies getting traded and working out as starters doesn't suggest Georgiev is worth that much.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.
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    The Rangers want a young roster forward for Georgiev. Realistically, Ottawa doesn't really have that. You might be able to convince them with Drake Batherson and a pick. But even that is questionable.

    I also don't understand why you've paid Georgiev that much and for that long. The track record of young backup goalies getting traded and working out as starters doesn't suggest Georgiev is worth that much.


    Wait... Batherson AND a pick for Georgiev? That's madness.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    The Rangers want a young roster forward for Georgiev. Realistically, Ottawa doesn't really have that. You might be able to convince them with Drake Batherson and a pick. But even that is questionable.

    I also don't understand why you've paid Georgiev that much and for that long. The track record of young backup goalies getting traded and working out as starters doesn't suggest Georgiev is worth that much.


    Batherson alone is more than enough for Georgiev
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: therealgregb569
    Batherson alone is more than enough for Georgiev


    Yes and that's an understatement.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Wait... Batherson AND a pick for Georgiev? That's madness.


    Quoting: therealgregb569
    Batherson alone is more than enough for Georgiev


    Not really. Batherson isn't as experienced as the Rangers are looking for. You've gotta remember that Ottawa would have to outbid other teams for Georgiev if they wanted him. Other teams might offer a more experienced young player for him. Sens gotta sweeten the pot a little bit
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
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    Not really. Batherson isn't as experienced as the Rangers are looking for. You've gotta remember that Ottawa would have to outbid other teams for Georgiev if they wanted him. Other teams might offer a more experienced young player for him. Sens gotta sweeten the pot a little bit


    Find me one person who supports your argument. Batherson has the ability to become a 60+ point 1st line guy. Georgiev is average at best and goalies are extremely risky. Also, Rangers have no leverage with Shesterkin in the NHL now. Not to mention you said the sens should be adding a pick to the trade. Regardless of your argument, this is obviously a terrible trade for Ottawa no matter how you look at it.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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    Find me one person who supports your argument. Batherson has the ability to become a 60+ point 1st line guy. Georgiev is average at best and goalies are extremely risky. Also, Rangers have no leverage with Shesterkin in the NHL now. Not to mention you said the sens should be adding a pick to the trade. Regardless of your argument, this is obviously a terrible trade for Ottawa no matter how you look at it.


    That's your opinion on Batherson. But currently he has less than 40 games of experience and the Rangers have already said they want a young experienced roster player for Georgiev. Gotta think about the other teams needs too and not just yours. Rangers would likely want more for that reason
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
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    Not really. Batherson isn't as experienced as the Rangers are looking for. You've gotta remember that Ottawa would have to outbid other teams for Georgiev if they wanted him. Other teams might offer a more experienced young player for him. Sens gotta sweeten the pot a little bit


    a 2nd or 2 2nd rounders is enough. Abramov and a 2nd is more than enough. Batherson is our top prospect, you want Ottawa to trade him for a goalie who a team is desperately trying to trade before he gets offersheeted in the summer for a 2nd rounder in which the Rangers wont be able to match? Cool
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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    a 2nd or 2 2nd rounders is enough. Abramov and a 2nd is more than enough. Batherson is our top prospect, you want Ottawa to trade him for a goalie who a team is desperately trying to trade before he gets offersheeted in the summer for a 2nd rounder in which the Rangers wont be able to match? Cool


    Read what I said. I never said anything about the value. I said that New York likely doesn't make the deal because they've already come out and said what they want for Georgiev. Which is a young experienced roster player. Abramov isn't that. It's not just about what your team wants to give up. It has to make sense for the other team and that offer just doesn't make sense for the Rangers.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.
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    Read what I said. I never said anything about the value. I said that New York likely doesn't make the deal because they've already come out and said what they want for Georgiev. Which is a young experienced roster player. Abramov isn't that. It's not just about what your team wants to give up. It has to make sense for the other team and that offer just doesn't make sense for the Rangers.


    What youre saying is you basically want someone like Kapanen or Labanc. Toronto doesn't need a goalie anymore and San Jose would probably ask for more than Georgiev for Labanc
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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    That's your opinion on Batherson. But currently he has less than 40 games of experience and the Rangers have already said they want a young experienced roster player for Georgiev. Gotta think about the other teams needs too and not just yours. Rangers would likely want more for that reason


    Batherson could've been playing in the NHL for a while now but the sens aren't good and they didn't want to stall his development. He's the Sens best prospect. Try to sell this trade to a rebuilding team...

    For the record, I don't want Georgiev.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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    Read what I said. I never said anything about the value. I said that New York likely doesn't make the deal because they've already come out and said what they want for Georgiev. Which is a young experienced roster player. Abramov isn't that. It's not just about what your team wants to give up. It has to make sense for the other team and that offer just doesn't make sense for the Rangers.


    agreed not to mention it's much easier to find forward prospects than it is to find good young goalies like georgiev. Comparing his stats to carter hart he has slightly higher SV pct and is only 2 years older if I'm correct. Ottawa is a good team for georgiev to go to if they are willing to pay his price which is higher than that offer.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
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    What youre saying is you basically want someone like Kapanen or Labanc. Toronto doesn't need a goalie anymore and San Jose would probably ask for more than Georgiev for Labanc


    I never mentioned any names actually. I only said what New York has said they were looking for.

    Seriously, learn to read before you comment back.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.
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    Batherson could've been playing in the NHL for a while now but the sens aren't good and they didn't want to stall his development. He's the Sens best prospect. Try to sell this trade to a rebuilding team...

    For the record, I don't want Georgiev.


    he has 8pts in 18 games not even playing with talented guys plus some of those games were in the beginning of the season when he was still getting his feet wet. hes been great since he got called up. I think his floor is Kapanen and his ceiling is a 1st line winger
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:30 p.m.
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    I never mentioned any names actually. I only said what New York has said they were looking for.

    Seriously, learn to read before you comment back.


    Let me put you in our shoes. Let's say you're back in the 2015-16 season, and I told you Nylander and a pick for Grubauer. Not great eh? I get your point with what the Rangers are looking for, but...
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.
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    Let me put you in our shoes. Let's say you're back in the 2015-16 season, and I told you Nylander and a pick for Grubauer. Not great eh? I get your point with what the Rangers are looking for, but...


    I assume you're a Leafs fan.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:33 p.m.
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    Batherson could've been playing in the NHL for a while now but the sens aren't good and they didn't want to stall his development. He's the Sens best prospect. Try to sell this trade to a rebuilding team...

    For the record, I don't want Georgiev.


    You Sens fans need to learn how to read properly..

    I never said that Ottawa should make that deal. I said it's more likely that's what the Rangers would be looking for. You've gotta convince the other team that your offer is the best, and Abramov and a 2nd doesn't do anything for the Rangers who are nearing the end of their rebuild.

    Convince Ottawa to do it? The Rangers would most likely point out how more important goaltending is than a future middle 6 forward. Again, I'm not saying the Sens should do that. But that's the kinda deal it would take. Otherwise the Rangers hold on to Georgiev and move him in the summer when more teams need a goalie and the market opens up to maximize the return. A prospect and a pick do nothing for the Rangers to convince them it's the best for their team.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
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    You Sens fans need to learn how to read properly..

    I never said that Ottawa should make that deal. I said it's more likely that's what the Rangers would be looking for. You've gotta convince the other team that your offer is the best, and Abramov and a 2nd doesn't do anything for the Rangers who are nearing the end of their rebuild.

    Convince Ottawa to do it? The Rangers would most likely point out how more important goaltending is than a future middle 6 forward. Again, I'm not saying the Sens should do that. But that's the kinda deal it would take. Otherwise the Rangers hold on to Georgiev and move him in the summer when more teams need a goalie and the market opens up to maximize the return. A prospect and a pick do nothing for the Rangers to convince them it's the best for their team.


    If you're suggesting that trade, expect the heat no matter what lol. I acknowledged your argument earlier. I just honestly can't see how that's not a MASSIVE overpayment on the sens end.
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    Feb. 14, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
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    georgiev will cost brannstrom lol
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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    Let me put you in our shoes. Let's say you're back in the 2015-16 season, and I told you Nylander and a pick for Grubauer. Not great eh? I get your point with what the Rangers are looking for, but...


    Agreed. Georgiev is basically Grubauer before he got traded or even Bishop
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.
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    You Sens fans need to learn how to read properly..

    I never said that Ottawa should make that deal. I said it's more likely that's what the Rangers would be looking for. You've gotta convince the other team that your offer is the best, and Abramov and a 2nd doesn't do anything for the Rangers who are nearing the end of their rebuild.

    Convince Ottawa to do it? The Rangers would most likely point out how more important goaltending is than a future middle 6 forward. Again, I'm not saying the Sens should do that. But that's the kinda deal it would take. Otherwise the Rangers hold on to Georgiev and move him in the summer when more teams need a goalie and the market opens up to maximize the return. A prospect and a pick do nothing for the Rangers to convince them it's the best for their team.


    Its all good, id offersheet Georgiev for 3 years at 4 mill and only have to give up a 2nd rounder. No one is going to overpay
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 2:09 p.m.
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    If you're suggesting that trade, expect the heat no matter what lol. I acknowledged your argument earlier. I just honestly can't see how that's not a MASSIVE overpayment on the sens end.


    Batherson is our best prospect lol. Id give him up for Vasi or Gibson but no one besides that. And I wouldn't add anything else of substance
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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    Its all good, id offersheet Georgiev for 3 years at 4 mill and only have to give up a 2nd rounder. No one is going to overpay


    LOL.. you just did overpay with that offersheet.
    Feb. 14, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.
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    I think the Sens are better off waiting until draft day before deciding because they have a shot at drafting Yaroslav Askarov.
     
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