Quoting: Jangle29
Its about asset management and timing. You have 3-6 more years of KK getting better vs possibly o ly 2 years of a likely peaked Manson. Dermott is also a decent player just never got back to himself after the injury last season
KK isn’t a developing player anymore and likely won’t get better. He certainly won’t continue improving for the next 3-6 years. He’s just entering his prime years and his goal totals have dropped this year too.
No interest in Dermot as we have Lindholm and Fowler at LD.
Quoting: tomato43
I have no interest in trading for Manson. If we cant trade for a younger D with a good amount of team control left on his deal i would rather go after a stopgap player and take a swing at Hamilton when he goes UFA the year after next.
Agree that this move would be best for TOR. Manson is gonna be too expensive (I’m talking Liljegren + 1st +, not KK + Dermot) and won’t solve your problems.
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Lol you are going to be so disappointed if Manson gets traded. Just out to lunch
He won’t be traded without an overpay. That’s going to be Liljegren (Manson replacement) + 1st (security in case Liljegren doesn’t pan out) +. He’s highly valued by the organisation and a leader in the locker room. I can’t remember the exact quote from TSN, but something about “you don’t love your wife more than ANA loves Manson”.
Quoting: Jangle29
Manson has a NTC/NMC so "other teams" won't always factor in.
Also this answer is so annoying where you bust in and just assuming you are smarter than everyone else. Just so you can have the knowledge for the next time you make yourself look stupid
Value wise
Kapanen =Liljegren
Dermott is not far off both.
Toronto doesn't have their 1st round pick (which I don't see the ducks having much interest in vs established young players because it will be a late 1st from any team Manson would waive to go to)
So I would like to know the other teams you believe would smoke this offer.
That’s going to be price or something around that. It’s overpay, but that’s why it is highly-likely Manson won’t be traded because. He’s going to be too expensive for what he brings. Fine by me. I’d prefer him to stay in ANA.
Quoting: leafs101
josh Manson STARTS with Auston Matthews. The leafs bias is getting to your head if you think otherwise.
Sarcasm? Manson price is high because he’s loved by the organisation and he’s a leader. No need to move him for less either. Having said that, the price isn’t Matthews. Liljegren + 1st +, which, for me, doesn’t sniff a fair Matthews bid.
Quoting: Boomer125
I'd Say Damon Severson out of NJ , that package of Kapenen and Dermott certainly gets that conversation going, Severson is younger signed longer and is already better than Manson
Severson? Fill your boots if you think he’s better than Manson.