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VAN and MIN Trades

Created by: GFD1996
Initial Creation Date: Feb 15, 2020
Published: Feb 15 at 4:36 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher
  2. Leivo, Josh
Additional Details:
Tanev: Expiring Deal, TOR native, provides shut down ability for Leafs and Sandin and Rielly can over take PP duties

Leivo: perhaps a sign and trade situation
VAN
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
Additional Details:
Barrie: Expiring Deal, VAN native, and can help push for playoffs

Kapanen: significant term left and would be a good add for VAN
TOR
  1. Foligno, Marcus
  2. Belpedio, Louis
  3. 2020 5th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. Johnsson, Andreas
  4. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
TOR
MIN
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
WPG
STL
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,891,310$0$470,000$1,608,690
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
VAN
Leivo, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
$4,450,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1

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Feb 15 at 4:50
#1
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I have no clue on Belpedio's worth right now. He'll be waiver eligible next season. Johnsson is an odd fit for the Wild.
Feb 15 at 4:56
#2
Not a burger anymore
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TOR loses both moves, easily...
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Feb 15 at 6:15
#3
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
TOR loses both moves, easily...


Replace Leivo with Virtanen and Id say its fair. But then again why trade two guys who fit the roster on and off the ice so well for two guys who might not?

The Canucks might not go for it depending on how much Barrie wants. Especially since Tanev compliments Hughes so well.
Feb 15 at 6:50
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Gio's Leafs
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
TOR loses both moves, easily...


Tanev >>> Barrie
Kap and Leivo =
Foligno >>> Johnsson

Dermott surplus... but go off
Feb 15 at 6:58
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Quoting: GFD1996
Tanev >>> Barrie
Kap and Leivo =
Foligno >>> Johnsson

Dermott surplus... but go off


Barrie = Tanev
Kap >> Leivo
Johnsson >> Foligno
Dermott >>>>>>>> Belpedio
Feb 15 at 7:47
#6
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 66
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Barrie = Tanev
Kap >> Leivo
Johnsson >> Foligno
Dermott >>>>>>>> Belpedio

tanev>>Barrie
kap>>leivo
think it's pretty equal

van probably says no cause of how well tanman and Hughes play together even if kap would be the perfect winger for bo
Feb 15 at 7:56
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Quoting: Tjmac22
tanev>>Barrie
kap>>leivo
think it's pretty equal

van probably says no cause of how well tanman and Hughes play together even if kap would be the perfect winger for bo


Tanev seems good for you only because he plays well with Hughes.

Doesn't mean he carries value for TOR any more than Barrie.

For them, Tanev's no upgrade from Barrie, so ofc they're not doing the trade.
Feb 15 at 8:33
#8
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Posts: 66
Likes: 5
Quoting: BurgerBoss
Tanev seems good for you only because he plays well with Hughes.

Doesn't mean he carries value for TOR any more than Barrie.

For them, Tanev's no upgrade from Barrie, so ofc they're not doing the trade.


see that's where your wrong tanev has been really good for along time not just since hes been playing with hughes hes made pretty well every dman hes played with better the only knock on him is the injuries and he would be an immediate upgrade on actually playing defense for Toronto's tire fire of a backend dont get me wrong they can put up points but there trash at helping keeping pucks out of their own net which is exactly what makes tanev so valuable
Feb 15 at 8:44
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Quoting: Tjmac22
see that's where your wrong tanev has been really good for along time not just since hes been playing with hughes hes made pretty well every dman hes played with better the only knock on him is the injuries and he would be an immediate upgrade on actually playing defense for Toronto's tire fire of a backend dont get me wrong they can put up points but there trash at helping keeping pucks out of their own net which is exactly what makes tanev so valuable


He'd probably make their defense better, but not that much they'd move Kappy for it.

Offensively Barrie and Kappy brings almost twice what Tanev and Leivo does. That's also important for a full-offense team.

Defense is important for them, but they should not get that much weaker offensively to upgrade defense just a little.
Feb 15 at 9:06
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Feb 15 at 9:07
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
He'd probably make their defense better, but not that much they'd move Kappy for it.

Offensively Barrie and Kappy brings almost twice what Tanev and Leivo does. That's also important for a full-offense team.

Defense is important for them, but they should not get that much weaker offensively to upgrade defense just a little.


so was just looking at stats and some analytics
kappy and leivo almost equal slight edge to kappy 
barrie way better offense (not as bad defensively as I thought)
tanev much better defense his points probably stacked a bit playing with hughes so it really comes down to what you value higher defense or offense I've changed my mind a bit after research 
kap>=leivo 
barrie>=tanman 
so all in all probably bad for tor but it's not as far off as some would suggest 
side note would you consider 
ceci and kap for tanman?
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Feb 15 at 9:35
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Quoting: Tjmac22
so was just looking at stats and some analytics
kappy and leivo almost equal slight edge to kappy 
barrie way better offense (not as bad defensively as I thought)
tanev much better defense his points probably stacked a bit playing with hughes so it really comes down to what you value higher defense or offense I've changed my mind a bit after research 
kap>=leivo 
barrie>=tanman 
so all in all probably bad for tor but it's not as far off as some would suggest 
side note would you consider 
ceci and kap for tanman?


Nah. Ceci is on LTIR for the major part of the season and it's not ideal to move a good contract mid-6 winger for pending UFA D.
Feb 15 at 10:00
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Nah. Ceci is on LTIR for the major part of the season and it's not ideal to move a good contract mid-6 winger for pending UFA D.


ahhh didnt realize he was ltir only reason I suggested cause I knew how bad he has been thought it might offset the value of kap and tanny
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