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Well take em both

Created by: Billy739
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 15, 2020
Published: Feb. 15, 2020
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Why not

with Romanov coming next year we'll be in great shape
Chiarot-Dumba
Brodin -Fleury
Romanov-Weber
Kulak

have all 3 pairings average 20 minutes unless special teams becomes a factor then you'll see Weber ,Dumba Chiarot and Brodin's ice times pick up . before Long Romanov-Dumba, Brodin-Fleury will be our top 4 with Weber breaking in rookies like Harris , Norlinder , and Struble in on bottom pair .
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Geekie, Morgan
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Petry, Jeff ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Petry @ 4m cap
willing to retain more for a better prospect.
2.
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt
Additional Details:
MTL immediatelly gives him #55 and Dumba55 jersey's set a single day sales record in MTL lol
MIN
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
3.
MIN
  1. Domi, Max
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Jankowski, Mark
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
If Kovalchuk wins the cup with CGY the 3rd becomes a 2nd
5.
MTL
  1. Djoos, Christian
  2. 2021 4th round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Scandella, Marco ($2,000,000 retained)
6.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,989,642$0$4,590,000$3,510,358
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
G
RFA - 3
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$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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Domi > Brodin
Petry > a 1st round pick
Dumba > Mete + 1st

Other trades fair
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
Domi > Brodin
Petry > a 1st round pick
Dumba > Mete + 1st

Other trades fair


Quoting: GMs
Domi > Brodin
Petry > a 1st round pick
Dumba > Mete + 1st

Other trades fair


Domi's had 1 good year , 3 bad seasons
1 good year followed by a stinker yet again

you gotta see things from the other teams POV
its my 3rd post trying this and the 1st two got me crapped on to the point i had to delete them .


Dumba they wanted 2 picks and a younger top 4 D in return , mete's our only player that fits that description .
Brodin they wanted Domi + because he's streakier then Pacioretty without the success to back up such an ask (i gotta agree )

Petry over the 1st rounder you're right on period . Canians2000 wore me down from Suzuki or Fleury and a 1st to this .
i just was tired of debating and gave in to get the 1st to make this all work (as if i just traded ours Habs fans would turn on me quoting MB )

its a delicate balancing act
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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I’m glad you separated the Wild trades to show the value Brodin actually has. Wild pull the trigger here.
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
I’m glad you separated the Wild trades to show the value Brodin actually has. Wild pull the trigger here.


3rd attempt today , im just trying to find middle ground without getting shot :P
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
I’m glad you separated the Wild trades to show the value Brodin actually has. Wild pull the trigger here.


Min accept Domi vs Brodin 1 for 1 idk why we’re adding a pick, Brodin is UFA in2 years Domi is RFA and under control
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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3rd attempt today , im just trying to find middle ground without getting shot :P


Problem is you’re banking on Carolina to accept first, and while Petry is a big add for them, they also want Dumba or Brodin. So essentially you’re getting them to help you acquire a guy they want for themselves, but I mean nobody says you have to tell them that lol
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Min accept Domi vs Brodin 1 for 1 idk why we’re adding a pick, Brodin is UFA in2 years Domi is RFA and under control


I’m not so sure they do or it probably would have happened by now. I would accept 1 for 1 though.
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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I’m not so sure they do or it probably would have happened by now. I would accept 1 for 1 though.


Mtl isn’t trading Domi for Brodin 1 for 1 lol
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Feb. 15, 2020 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Problem is you’re banking on Carolina to accept first, and while Petry is a big add for them, they also want Dumba or Brodin. So essentially you’re getting them to help you acquire a guy they want for themselves, but I mean nobody says you have to tell them that lol


there is other teams i could trade Petry to it just seemed like a good fit for them and they could sell him next year and get a 1st back most likely
this gives their youth a chance to step up but honestly he'd fit in pretty well with NYI and WPG right now as well as DAL but none of them declared their 1st was up for grabs so this just seemed easier
Feb. 15, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.
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Mtl isn’t trading Domi for Brodin 1 for 1 lol


Domi 's value doesnt magically become 10 x his value 2 years ago when we got him
had he showed up this year it would have went a long way towards building up his value but he did not
he's a great #3 guy on a line but he's incapable of leading a line which diminishes value .
not to mention most of his points last year were against middle 6 players while Tatar-Danault-Galllagher handled top line match ups and still succeeded this and last year .

Domi's just got to many holes in his game to be considered the guy. when arbitrators sit down with him in a few months the most he'll get is 5.5-6m unless he's offersheeted or takes a bridge deal again .

I mean he'll get us more then Galchenyuk got us but lets not get crazy here just because his dads famous and he had 1 season playing against mediocre - good players but when asked to step up provided no signs of being a clear cut top 6 forward due to severe consistency issues .

Gallagher never has these issues , even when he doesnt get the point he's in on the play
Gallagher was in a similar position before Claude was hired and promoted him from 3rd with plekky to top pair at Radulov's expense and since he's scored 30 goals twice and if he keeps playing this well could hit it his 3rd year. That said i think Domi needs to go to a team like TML , CHI or BOS to find similar success but MIN also has that big market feel as i think MIN fans are easily top 3 american fanbases .

Domi needs pressure , spotlight and talented prospects to grow with along with leadership to guide him as you see him always clinging to someone
first Shaw , then Armia , and now Weise is his ''all time favorite teammate'' which i believe has kept Weise up as 13th forward as he works Domi hard in practice like Shaw used to .

Best to flip him now while he has value because on a rebuilding team transitioning towards young prospects we're not gonna be in a position for him to put up great numbers as we continue to sell off pieces.
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Feb. 16, 2020 at 12:36 a.m.
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Domi 's value doesnt magically become 10 x his value 2 years ago when we got him
had he showed up this year it would have went a long way towards building up his value but he did not
he's a great #3 guy on a line but he's incapable of leading a line which diminishes value .
not to mention most of his points last year were against middle 6 players while Tatar-Danault-Galllagher handled top line match ups and still succeeded this and last year .

Domi's just got to many holes in his game to be considered the guy. when arbitrators sit down with him in a few months the most he'll get is 5.5-6m unless he's offersheeted or takes a bridge deal again .

I mean he'll get us more then Galchenyuk got us but lets not get crazy here just because his dads famous and he had 1 season playing against mediocre - good players but when asked to step up provided no signs of being a clear cut top 6 forward due to severe consistency issues .

Gallagher never has these issues , even when he doesnt get the point he's in on the play
Gallagher was in a similar position before Claude was hired and promoted him from 3rd with plekky to top pair at Radulov's expense and since he's scored 30 goals twice and if he keeps playing this well could hit it his 3rd year. That said i think Domi needs to go to a team like TML , CHI or BOS to find similar success but MIN also has that big market feel as i think MIN fans are easily top 3 american fanbases .

Domi needs pressure , spotlight and talented prospects to grow with along with leadership to guide him as you see him always clinging to someone
first Shaw , then Armia , and now Weise is his ''all time favorite teammate'' which i believe has kept Weise up as 13th forward as he works Domi hard in practice like Shaw used to .

Best to flip him now while he has value because on a rebuilding team transitioning towards young prospects we're not gonna be in a position for him to put up great numbers as we continue to sell off pieces.


He’s a top6 forward and we’re not trading him for 1 year of Brodin. I rather keep him at this point, he’s playing for is contract and that’s the reason he’s not playing like last year. So chill out, hopefully he’ll get 5M on a long term deal and can be a consistent 50+ points forward
Feb. 16, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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He’s a top6 forward and we’re not trading him for 1 year of Brodin. I rather keep him at this point, he’s playing for is contract and that’s the reason he’s not playing like last year. So chill out, hopefully he’ll get 5M on a long term deal and can be a consistent 50+ points forward

see that's still an issue for me as i see more and more him regressing towards his dads selfish style of play.
which is fine if he wanted 3.5 -4m at 7 years term but anything higher he hasnt earned and if he makes the mistake of demanding 5-6m he'll be a player most teams wouldnt mind having but would never accept on that deal .


Twice in the past 5 games he's back trying to start a fight with a goalie because he ran into them not watching where he's going and they chirped him .
i mean if it was just not scoring i wouldnt be worried but he's putting himself in a position to fail .
if this wasnt a stubborn player we were talking about maybe i'd have hope he'd learn but he only listens to guys like Shaw who you can hear call him out on the bench after a selfish play scolding him until he got it right .

no babysitter = no success .

we need and aggressive personality who's known to be a team guy similar to Shaw to crack Domi in line .
to me that Rousell from VAN who's got a similar score set to Shaw without all the injuries piled up over the years .
another player who woulda been perfect is Leo Komarov for the same reason he's an aggressive personality and hard worker.

We just dont have anyone like that who commands respect and younger RFA players like that for example Nick Ritchie are hard to pry loose .

i just dont trust Domi because he's outright lost us a lot of 1 goal games this year all by his lonesome by being selfish .
Feb. 16, 2020 at 9:41 p.m.
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He’s a top6 forward and we’re not trading him for 1 year of Brodin. I rather keep him at this point, he’s playing for is contract and that’s the reason he’s not playing like last year. So chill out, hopefully he’ll get 5M on a long term deal and can be a consistent 50+ points forward


i mean if it was like the first 19 games of the season where he didnt take a single penalty and played responsibly between Drouin-Lehkonen(and Armia)
then i wouldnt have a bad thing to say

its all the stupid penalties he's taken in the 3rd period that reminds me of Subban putting himself before the team .
If he'd just learn to draw penatlies like Gallagher but nope he's gotta be the tough guy like his dad and refuses to play the strategic side of the game .

now if we could just get someone to straighten him out i'd Much Rather do that as the skill is there , he'll just never lead any line he's ever on as he's not a leader but a follower. (most playmakers are)

i'd kill to get Lars'Coach' Eller back because he made so many crappy players around him better over the years
without him zero % chance we are in a position where teams are interested in Fleischman and Weise for Danault and a 2nd (Romanov)
Since he's left we've really been lacking that 3rd line Center anchor that he was for 3-4 years here .
 
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