Flames are in the worst possible spot - a 50/50 shot at making the playoffs. In this position, you have all three options available, and they all appear to have their merits: buy, sell, hold. The truth is in this position, with expiring contracts the Flames will lose for nothing, and the prices that are being paid to acquire players right now, the only good option is sell. If the Flames are 50/50 just to make it, sell, load up on picks and prospects, give yourself a solid chance in the lottery and then make a run at it next year. Standing pat is the worst option, and buying right now is a bad plan, especially on a short term rental. Sell, retain salary, get picks. The trades below just represent options, based on the prices that have been paid the last couple of days. No term defencemen with either half salary or a sweetener (like the Flames taking Hutch back) should reap some great picks, and back end options that are cheap with no commitment should fetch a late round pick. Hell, maybe the trades make the Flames loosen up, the kids push to impress, and the Flames win a few games, make a race out of it. The point of it is to sell, not buy or hold! In terms of evaluating the deals, please tell me what you think, but I don't care about 'the asking price your team has publicly said' as that is a negotiating tactic, nothing more. Just because your GM said 'he will only be paying for term' or 'the first rounder is off the table' doesn't actually mean anything.
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CGY
2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Deal is for whichever of the first round picks is later.
Pick gets paid if Arizona makes the playoffs and Stone plays half the games. Becomes a sixth if Arizona makes the playoffs or Stone plays half the games. Becomes a 7th if neither happens.
I feel like these are all really low based off of others AGM and the expectations for their team’s return.
Low as in the return is low and the Flames should ask for more?
I was trying to be realistic and show what could be done. More would be great, absolutely.
I feel like the league might step in of CGY tried to trade Stone... They did buy him out in the off-season and had to get permission to sign him again lol
Low as in the return is low and the Flames should ask for more?
I was trying to be realistic and show what could be done. More would be great, absolutely.
Well, if any of the comments after mine didn’t clue you in then I meant that’s too low of a return. 🤷🏻♂️ We will see I guess.
Why are you trading so much in your own division ? Btw that Jankowski deal is for a draft pick already likely going Calgary's way as part of the Neal/ Lucic swap.
Yoy saw the andy greene trade today right? I hope that hamonic trade is a joke
A 2021 second is worth less than a 2020 second, and David Quenneville is a C prospect. Replace Hutchinson with a B prospect and the proposed trade is right on value. Or deal with Winnipeg and ask for Luke Green, who has a better chance of making it with the Jets/Flames than Quenneville does with the Devils.
I feel like the league might step in of CGY tried to trade Stone... They did buy him out in the off-season and had to get permission to sign him again lol
they didnt need permission, they didnt break any rules
99% sure You can't sign a guy you bought out in the same summer... I think that's cap circumvention...
Well you are wrong with the 1% I guess. Teams are not allowed to resign a player for a whole season that was bought out in a compliance buyout (amnesty buyout) since they do not go against the cap. each team only received a max of 2 compliance buyouts for the lockout season of 2013-14 since the lockout caused the cap not to increase at all. essential a free pass buyout, still had to pay the player but they had zero cap hit for the entirety of the buyout.
In the case of Michael Stone it was a regular buyout. Until the injury to Valimaki occurred Calgary likely wasn't resigning Stone as he wasn't needed. However, there is no rule that stops a team from buying out a contract regularly during the buyout period and resigning them
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