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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 17, 2020
Published: Feb. 17, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
7$5,500,000
4$5,250,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,500,000
6$6,000,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$1,200,000
2$800,000
5$5,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
4$2,000,000
1$700,000
2$3,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
2.
BUF
  1. 2020 4th round pick (SJS)
3.
MTL
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
  4. 2021 1st round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$84,500,000$82,668,334$1,487,500$3,700,000$1,831,666

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$845,000$845,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 3
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA

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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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Overpayment
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Overpayment


Not really...
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.
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Overpayment


True, but to get Gallagher out of Montreal you’ll have to overpay. Almost the same with domi, even if there is trade rumors, Bergevin don’t want to trade him
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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True, but to get Gallagher out of Montreal you’ll have to overpay. Almost the same with domi, even if there is trade rumors, Bergevin don’t want to trade him


Then it ain't worth it since he's an expiring ufa
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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Not really...


Yes, it is
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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True, but to get Gallagher out of Montreal you’ll have to overpay. Almost the same with domi, even if there is trade rumors, Bergevin don’t want to trade him


Middlestadt and a 1st for Domi

Joki and a 1st for Gallagher is pretty fair value imo

I think most people overvalue Middlestadt and Joki by like, a lot.
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
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Then it ain't worth it since he's an expiring ufa


It wouldn't be hard to resign Gallagher. They just might have to trade someone or make smarter extensions than the ones shown above. Dahlin is the one that'll be interesting.
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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Middlestadt and a 1st for Domi

Joki and a 1st for Gallagher is pretty fair value imo

I think most people overvalue Middlestadt and Joki by like, a lot.


Yeah, that’s good value for Montreal but I don’t think the trade go through just bc Gallagher is untouchable for MB . However, I’ll do Middlestadt and a 2020 first for domi any time
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Yeah, that’s good value for Montreal but I don’t think the trade go through just bc Gallagher is untouchable for MB . However, I’ll do Middlestadt and a 2020 first for domi any time


I agree. It would be very hard to get Gallagher outta there, he'll probably be their next Captain.
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Yes, it is


How so......
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
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Yes, it is


Quoting: Bf3351
Middlestadt and a 1st for Domi

Joki and a 1st for Gallagher is pretty fair value imo

I think most people overvalue Middlestadt and Joki by like, a lot.


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True, but to get Gallagher out of Montreal you’ll have to overpay. Almost the same with domi, even if there is trade rumors, Bergevin don’t want to trade him


Why would sabres trade basically 4 high first round picks for domi and 1 year of gallagher. Makes no sense. We could trade risto or montour for Domi. MAybe add b prospect or picks( not a first)
I would do not want gally because he will not sign here. Rather keep joker and picks.
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.
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Why would sabres trade basically 4 high first round picks for domi and 1 year of gallagher. Makes no sense. We could trade risto or montour for Domi. MAybe add b prospect or picks( not a first)
I would do not want gally because he will not sign here. Rather keep joker and picks.


Because with those players and that lineup the only high draft pick would be the 2020 pick and it might not even be top 10. Middlestadt isn't proving to be anything special. Joki MIGHT turn into something. Just trying to help the NUF fans win quicker lol
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.
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That Montreal trade, god no
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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Because with those players and that lineup the only high draft pick would be the 2020 pick and it might not even be top 10. Middlestadt isn't proving to be anything special. Joki MIGHT turn into something. Just trying to help the NUF fans win quicker lol


Spell his name right and maybe I'll consider your Annette l arguments as to how a 21 year old is a bust
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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Because with those players and that lineup the only high draft pick would be the 2020 pick and it might not even be top 10. Middlestadt isn't proving to be anything special. Joki MIGHT turn into something. Just trying to help the NUF fans win quicker lol


Mittelstadt is whatever. Hes been playing well in Rochester. Buffalo hasnt given up on him. But Jokiharju is literally untouchable. To Botterill himself, he is untouchable. Jokiharju straight up for Gallagher is laughable. Thats a massive overpayment and Buffalo would have no interest in it. Even Mitts and a 1st for Domi would be declined. They can easily get better value else where, including just keeping the pick. 0 reason to waste great to untouchable assets on a band aid
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Mittelstadt is whatever. Hes been playing well in Rochester. Buffalo hasnt given up on him. But Jokiharju is literally untouchable. To Botterill himself, he is untouchable. Jokiharju straight up for Gallagher is laughable. Thats a massive overpayment and Buffalo would have no interest in it. Even Mitts and a 1st for Domi would be declined. They can easily get better value else where, including just keeping the pick. 0 reason to waste great to untouchable assets on a band aid


LOL
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.
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Spell his name right and maybe I'll consider your Annette l arguments as to how a 21 year old is a bust


I'm not too worried about spelling a busts name correctly, you will see smile
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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LOL


Its only laughable that you think youre in the right.
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Its only laughable that you think youre in the right.


It is laughable that you don't understand how trades work.
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.
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Spell his name right and maybe I'll consider your arguments as to how a 21 year old is a bust
Feb. 17, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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It is laughable that you don't understand how trades work.


You are trading top young players and 2 1st round picks. That is just crazy for a team obviously not ready even with the guys u added. They are sabres future. You trade guys like Montour and risto way before they trade those assets.
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Feb. 17, 2020 at 11:00 a.m.
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It is laughable that you don't understand how trades work.


Enlighten me. Sabres give up 2 young players, one who is a top 4 dman now and soon to be a top pair dman in this league under team control for another decade and 2 good draft picks, for 2 middle 6 players that average 40-50 points, one whos about to be extremely overpaid while approaching 30. Theyre band aids and not even good ones. Domi for Mitts and a 1st with stipulations, that could probably work. But Buffalo has no interest in Gallagher or trading Jokiharju. Buffalo can get similar value in free agency without giving up an asset
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You are trading top young players and 2 1st round picks. That is just crazy for a team obviously not ready even with the guys u added. They are sabres future. You trade guys like Montour and risto way before they trade those assets.


Yeah you're right, those youngsters are more important than Eichel. They keep sucking ass year after year like they always do, soon Eichle will request a trade and back to square 1 you go.
Feb. 17, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Enlighten me. Sabres give up 2 young players, one who is a top 4 dman now and soon to be a top pair dman in this league under team control for another decade and 2 good draft picks, for 2 middle 6 players that average 40-50 points, one whos about to be extremely overpaid while approaching 30. Theyre band aids and not even good ones. Domi for Mitts and a 1st with stipulations, that could probably work. But Buffalo has no interest in Gallagher or trading Jokiharju. Buffalo can get similar value in free agency without giving up an asset


Joki plus 2020 1st for Gallagher(who is still young)
Middelstadt plus 2021 1st for Domi

Both of those players will cost quite a bit more than just a 1st especially Gallagher who would be hard to pry out of Montreal.

You can dislike the trade and not agree with doing it, but the value is accurate. Not much of a debate there...
Feb. 17, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Yeah you're right, those youngsters are more important than Eichel. They keep sucking ass year after year like they always do, soon Eichle will request a trade and back to square 1 you go.


Yeah never said they are more valuable. But thinking trading young cost controlled assets for UFA and Player with one good year then struggled this year. We could make a better deal and thank god you are not the GM.
 
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