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The Inevitable

Created by: MNBassman
Initial Creation Date: Feb 17, 2020
Published: Feb 17 at 5:28 pm
Team: 2019-20 Minnesota Wild
Team Explanation
Trades are a combo of deadline and off season deals.
Jacob Markstrom signed in the off season 4 years/$24million
Trades
MIN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Dumba, Matt
Additional Details:
Base of the trade
MIN
  1. Domi, Max
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Lowest of the 2 2nds
MTL
  1. Brodin, Jonas
MIN
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Staal, Eric
  2. Foligno, Marcus
MIN
    ANA
    1. Zuccarello, Mats
    2. Dubnyk, Devan
    3. Donato, Ryan
    4. Rask, Victor
    5. Koivu, Mikko
    6. Galchenyuk, Alex
    7. Hartman, Ryan
    Additional Details:
    Traded, let go, bought out, buried under a rock somewhere...
    Buyouts
    • Tyler Ennis: $1,216,667
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    MIN
    PIT
    EDM
    MIN
    CHI
    MTL
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2021
    MIN
    TOR
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    17$81,500,000$43,107,713$0$1,500,000$38,392,287
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    MTL
    Domi, Max
    $3,150,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Parise, Zach
    $7,538,461
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TOR
    Kerfoot, Alexander
    $3,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    $1,500,000
    RW
    RFA
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    $916,666
    LW
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    $1,487,500
    C
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Kunin, Luke
    $925,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    $874,125
    C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    MIN
    Suter, Ryan
    $7,538,461
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    $5,187,500
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Stalock, Alex
    $785,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Soucy, Carson
    $750,000
    D
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3
    MIN
    Hunt, Brad
    $700,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Pateryn, Greg
    $2,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 2

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    Feb 17 at 5:33
    #1
    Fire Botts
    Joined: Jan 2020
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    What could buffalo offer for Donato?
    Feb 17 at 5:34
    #2
    Thread Starter
    MNBassman
    Joined: May 2015
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    Quoting: FireBotts
    What could buffalo offer for Donato?


    Their 2020 2nd
    Feb 17 at 5:35
    #3
    Joined: Jun 2016
    Posts: 2,476
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    Ya that Domi trade...it should be the other way around. Brodin and 2 2nds for Domi. You're getting an RFA and giving up a guy who could walk in 1 yr. 2 2nds are the insurance in case Brodin walks
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    Feb 17 at 5:37
    #4
    Bandwagon fairweathe
    Joined: Jun 2018
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    Going to have to find away to shine up the buried under a rock section to acquire some assets, or going to be one long rebuild. Possibly 6 more years of bubbles until suter and parise off the books.
    Feb 17 at 5:42
    #5
    Joined: Jan 2020
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    Quoting: FireBotts
    What could buffalo offer for Donato?


    Probably worth a 2nd, or 2 3rds
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    Feb 17 at 5:46
    #6
    Thread Starter
    MNBassman
    Joined: May 2015
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Ya that Domi trade...it should be the other way around. Brodin and 2 2nds for Domi. You're getting an RFA and giving up a guy who could walk in 1 yr. 2 2nds are the insurance in case Brodin walks


    It’s not 2 2nds...
    Feb 17 at 6:01
    #7
    Joined: Jun 2016
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    Quoting: MNBassman
    It’s not 2 2nds...


    Ya sorry I misread. It's 1 2nd. It doesn't change my opinion about who should be getting the 2nd.
    Feb 17 at 6:08
    #8
    Joined: May 2015
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    I just can't get behind a Brodin deal involving Domi. Flip the scripts, what would you have said if this was last year when Brodin was worth two 2nds as an option and Domi was considered untouchable? Has one year flipped everything? Brodin is 1 year away from free agency and having a good but not great season. Domi may be having a down year but he's an RFA that can be controlled for much longer and is bound to rebound next year...

    If Im the Habs, adding a LHD now is too late. The time was this offseason. Now the Habs have Kulak and Chiarot signed long term. Mete will be resigned and Romanov coming over specifically to play in the NHL. Brodin all but ensures that Kulak is a 7th dman and Mete is traded. I just don't see it.
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    Feb 17 at 6:17
    #9
    Thread Starter
    MNBassman
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Ya sorry I misread. It's 1 2nd. It doesn't change my opinion about who should be getting the 2nd.


    I thinks it’s close to a 1 for 1, but recently I’ve read about Domi lacking work ethic, so I’m not that jazzed about even acquiring him...so I added the 2nd.
    Feb 17 at 6:22
    #10
    Thread Starter
    MNBassman
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    Quoting: F50marco
    I just can't get behind a Brodin deal involving Domi. Flip the scripts, what would you have said if this was last year when Brodin was worth two 2nds as an option and Domi was considered untouchable? Has one year flipped everything? Brodin is 1 year away from free agency and having a good but not great season. Domi may be having a down year but he's an RFA that can be controlled for much longer and is bound to rebound next year...

    If Im the Habs, adding a LHD now is too late. The time was this offseason. Now the Habs have Kulak and Chiarot signed long term. Mete will be resigned and Romanov coming over specifically to play in the NHL. Brodin all but ensures that Kulak is a 7th dman and Mete is traded. I just don't see it.


    Brodin is having a sensational season! If Suter and Parise weren’t the coaches and GMs of the Wild, Brodin would be the top-paring LHD. He is unquestionably the better player now.
    Your other reasons are very sound, however.
    Feb 17 at 6:35
    #11
    Hugh Hefner of CF
    Joined: May 2018
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    If this is the price to acquire Dumba right now then Leafs pass.
    Moving Liljergen is non-starter for me.
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    Feb 17 at 6:40
    #12
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    MNBassman
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    Quoting: Trickster
    I'd this is price to acquire Dumba right now then Leafs pass.
    Moving Liljergen is non-starter for me.


    You and most Leafs fans feel this way but I just don’t get it. Liljegren is a good, but not great prospect...
    Feb 17 at 6:43
    #13
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    Quoting: Trickster
    I'd this is price to acquire Dumba right now then Leafs pass.
    Moving Liljergen is non-starter for me.


    Maybe moving Liljegren for trying to win right now makes sense but given the cap situation, Leafs can't trade a Liljegren or Sandin type of contract because to win now they are needed as value contracts to stay at the cap.
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    Feb 17 at 6:44
    #14
    Hugh Hefner of CF
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    Quoting: MNBassman
    You and most Leafs fans feel this way but I just don’t get it. Liljegren is a good, but not great prospect...


    See @onex post cause that's why.
    Feb 17 at 6:48
    #15
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    MNBassman
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    Quoting: Trickster
    See @onex post cause that's why.


    That’s a completely valid point...and makes perfect sense for the Leafs...but, it doesn’t change what Liljegren’s actual trade value is. Simply put, he’s much more valuable to the Leafs than he is to anyone else.
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    Feb 17 at 7:23
    #16
    Hugh Hefner of CF
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    Quoting: MNBassman
    That’s a completely valid point...and makes perfect sense for the Leafs...but, it doesn’t change what Liljegren’s actual trade value is. Simply put, he’s much more valuable to the Leafs than he is to anyone else.


    Agreed.
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    Feb 17 at 7:25
    #17
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    Quoting: MNBassman
    I thinks it’s close to a 1 for 1, but recently I’ve read about Domi lacking work ethic, so I’m not that jazzed about even acquiring him...so I added the 2nd.


    Brodin never eclipsed 25pts. Hes on the verge of doing it this year, but even 35 pts. This deal doesn't make sense for MTL whatsoever. I can trade Domi to cup contender and they'll over pay. Brodin should be traded to a cup contender cause any rebuilding team isn't gonna touch a top 4 pairing D (they're expensive) with 1 yr remaining before hitting free agency.
    Feb 17 at 7:37
    #18
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    MNBassman
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    Quoting: The_Architect
    Brodin never eclipsed 25pts. Hes on the verge of doing it this year, but even 35 pts. This deal doesn't make sense for MTL whatsoever. I can trade Domi to cup contender and they'll over pay. Brodin should be traded to a cup contender cause any rebuilding team isn't gonna touch a top 4 pairing D (they're expensive) with 1 yr remaining before hitting free agency.


    You are entitled to your opinion...
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