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Rather trade Marner than Nylander

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Initial Creation Date: Feb 17, 2020
Published: Feb 17 at 5:51 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Donskoi, Joonas
  2. Burakovsky, André
  3. Byram, Bowen
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Marner, Mitchell
TOR
  1. Martinez, Alec
  2. 2020 4th round pick (LAK)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (CGY)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
LAK
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
VGK
LAK
CGY
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$77,273,310$0$470,000$4,226,690
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
COL
Burakovsky, André
$3,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
LAK
Martinez, Alec
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Feb 17 at 5:54
#1
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You’re gonna get called crazy because no Leafs fans want to create cap space to actually improve the defence
Feb 17 at 5:55
#2
Joined: Mar 2018
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It’s not too late to take this down before leaf fans kill you over that low of a return for Marner. No 1sts, no RHD, and no top line players coming back.... The best thing you’re getting back is Byram, he’s going to be really really good, but is he worth trading Marner for?
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Feb 17 at 5:56
#3
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Hahaha swing and a miss, Avs don’t want to inherit the leafs cap mess with this trade and saving their d core

You are not getting that sort of return, no team is doing the leafs any favors,
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Feb 17 at 5:57
#4
M. Marincin Truther
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Or how about one of johnsson or kerfoot instead.
Feb 17 at 5:59
#5
Marner Stan Account
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Edited Feb 17 at 6:17
Quoting: coga16
Hahaha swing and a miss, Avs don’t want to inherit the leafs cap mess with this trade and saving their d core

You are not getting that sort of return, no team is doing the leafs any favors,

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Feb 17 at 6:00
#6
Marner Stan Account
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Posts: 2,545
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Edited Feb 17 at 6:13
Quoting: Ajp_18
It’s not too late to take this down before leaf fans kill you over that low of a return for Marner. No 1sts, no RHD, and no top line players coming back.... The best thing you’re getting back is Byram, he’s going to be really really good, but is he worth trading Marner for?


Byram has higher value than Marner.
Feb 17 at 6:00
#7
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Posts: 8,019
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Exactly Marner is not worth anything near that. Maybe Marner with retained salary for one of Zadorov/Cole would make more sense.


How do you still have an account? All you do is poorly troll
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Feb 17 at 6:00
#8
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
You’re gonna get called crazy because no Leafs fans want to create cap space to actually improve the defence


Marner can’t fetch you a top pairing defenseman.
Feb 17 at 6:03
#9
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: coga16
How do you still have an account? All you do is poorly troll


Marner with his grossly overpaid contract deflates his value significantly. Just because you disagree with my takes doesn’t make me a troll.
Feb 17 at 6:04
#10
Joined: Jan 2020
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Marner can’t fetch you a top pairing defenseman.


There a lots of top pairing guys+ that I’d give up to get Marner, depending on the situation each team is in. They won’t trade him though, but they’ll be stuck in the mud until they at least trade Nylander for a d-man.
Feb 17 at 6:27
#11
Yee
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Posts: 216
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W T F
Feb 17 at 6:50
#12
mhockey91
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Quoting: coga16
Hahaha swing and a miss, Avs don’t want to inherit the leafs cap mess with this trade and saving their d core

You are not getting that sort of return, no team is doing the leafs any favors,


Marner last year had 94 points, this year hes on pace for 100. He may be slightly overpaid but he’s still a phenomenal elite winger. He’s certainly not a cap mess. As for the trade, it’s 2 middle 6 wingers, a blue chip D prospect, and a 2nd, for one of the premier wingers in the league. The only piece of significant value is Byron. I don’t think leafs do this trade
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Feb 17 at 6:54
#13
Leafs
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FOR EVERYONE SAYING MARNER IS GROSSLY OVERPAID: he's on pace for 100+ points over an 82 game season. And:

According to Jonas Siegel's twitter as of ten days ago ( I don't know about now but it's likely relatively similar as Matthews and Marner have scored at a high pace in last 5 games):

NHL scoring leaders since Dec 7:

1. Mitch Marner: 39 points
2. Artemi Panarin: 38
3. Auston Matthews: 37

Also kills penalties.

@coga16, @MitchMarnerElite
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Feb 17 at 6:55
#14
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I dunno man. As a Pens fan, I wouldn’t trade Dumoulin for Marner 1 for 1.


Which makes you an absolute fool.
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Feb 17 at 7:33
#15
get off my lawn...
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Edited Feb 17 at 7:57
Quoting: BurgerBoss
Which makes you an absolute fool.


Lol, looks like you busted him with your quote. This is Mikey pens fan. Looks like he replaced the post with a period after you quoted it.
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Feb 17 at 7:59
#16
Joined: Dec 2017
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There are better guys paid less, but Marner is the guy I would miss the most if I were a leafs fan. Trade Tavares, trade Matthews, trade Nylander. Marner is the guy I want if I want to win. This is coming from a guy following two teams in the division.
Oh yeah, signing Muzzin to 4-5 years is nuts. They keep trying to pull bad moves because this is the 'window'. Just make good decisions and don't overpay.
Feb 18 at 3:57
#17
Marner Stan Account
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,545
Likes: 659
Quoting: leafs101
FOR EVERYONE SAYING MARNER IS GROSSLY OVERPAID: he's on pace for 100+ points over an 82 game season. And:

According to Jonas Siegel's twitter as of ten days ago ( I don't know about now but it's likely relatively similar as Matthews and Marner have scored at a high pace in last 5 games):

NHL scoring leaders since Dec 7:

1. Mitch Marner: 39 points
2. Artemi Panarin: 38
3. Auston Matthews: 37

Also kills penalties.

@coga16, @MitchMarnerElite


Don’t forget he matches up against other teams’ top lines. Honestly, Marner does everything you are looking for. However I just don’t feel as impressed with him compared to last season. Maybe it’s because the Leafs have had an inconsistent year altogether. But some told me Marner only took himself to an elite level in order to get himself the big contract.
Feb 18 at 3:59
#18
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: mhockey91
Marner last year had 94 points, this year hes on pace for 100. He may be slightly overpaid but he’s still a phenomenal elite winger. He’s certainly not a cap mess. As for the trade, it’s 2 middle 6 wingers, a blue chip D prospect, and a 2nd, for one of the premier wingers in the league. The only piece of significant value is Byron. I don’t think leafs do this trade


I think Burakovsky, Byram + 2nd would be an amazing trade for Toronto.
Feb 18 at 4:45
#19
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Which makes you an absolute fool.


I am a huge fan of Marner, but trust me, no team is trading their top shutdown defenseman for him and that contract.
Feb 18 at 5:42
#20
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I am a huge fan of Marner, but trust me, no team is trading their top shutdown defenseman for him and that contract.


Depends very much on that said D and the team's cap situation.

Would be surprised if there's more than 15 d-men in the league that wouldn't be swapped for Marner 1-on-1.
Feb 18 at 5:43
#21
Not a burger anymore
Joined: Oct 2017
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Lol, looks like you busted him with your quote. This is Mikey pens fan. Looks like he replaced the post with a period after you quoted it.


Yeah I figured that one out as soon as he posted that.
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