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If Fletcher wanted Dumba

Created by: Lights
Initial Creation Date: Feb 17, 2020
Published: Feb 17 at 6:33 pm
Team: 2020-21 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
Please beat cancer, Lindblom
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas2$1,000,000
Friedman, Mark2$850,000
Lindblom, Oskar1$1,000,000
Myers, Philippe3$2,500,000
Patrick, Nolan1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Khudobin, Anton2$3,000,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Laughton, Scott
  2. Rubtsov, German
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
  4. 2020 4th round pick (NSH)
Additional Details:
First is in the 20s.
PHI
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Lower of the two seconds. Add in some B/B- if needed.
MTL
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
Additional Details:
If they still have interest in Ghost.
Buyouts
  • Andrew MacDonald: $1,916,667
  • David Schlemko: $600,000
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PHI
MTL
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
MTL
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
CHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
2022
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$80,360,356$0$602,500$3,139,644
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 2
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 4
PHI
Farabee, Joel
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$1,500,000
C, RW
RFA
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$1,000,000
LW
RFA
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Bunnaman, Connor
$736,666
C
RFA - 1
PHI
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$6,750,000
LD
UFA - 5
PHI
Niskanen, Matt
$5,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 1
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,250,000
RD
RFA - 1
MIN
Dumba, Matt
$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Khudobin, Anton
$3,000,000
G
UFA
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$2,500,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PHI
Andreoff, Andy
$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
PHI
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Feb 17 at 6:36
#1
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
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If Fletcher wants Dumba, he needs to start with Morgan Frost...not a pile of used parts and spare pieces!
Feb 17 at 6:38
#2
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Martynas
Joined: Apr 2018
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Quoting: MNBassman
If Fletcher wants Dumba, he needs to start with Morgan Frost...not a pile of used parts and spare pieces!


Rubtsov is a pretty good prospect imo, floor of a 3C and the ceiling of a 2C (low end 2C but still), plus you're getting a first. I don't see how these are spare parts. Not like an offer of Friedman, a 2nd, and Laughton is being shown here.
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Feb 17 at 6:43
#3
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
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Quoting: Lights
Rubtsov is a pretty good prospect imo, floor of a 3C and the ceiling of a 2C (low end 2C but still), plus you're getting a first. I don't see how these are spare parts. Not like an offer of Friedman, a 2nd, and Laughton is being shown here.


Rubstov has a much better chance of being a 4th line center than a 2nd. So basically this offer is a 4C, a late-ish 1st, and 2 pieces the Wild have no use for.
Feb 17 at 6:44
#4
Joined: Jun 2017
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Quoting: Lights
Rubtsov is a pretty good prospect imo, floor of a 3C and the ceiling of a 2C (low end 2C but still), plus you're getting a first. I don't see how these are spare parts. Not like an offer of Friedman, a 2nd, and Laughton is being shown here.


Problem is the Wild have a million "floor of a 3rd liner ceiling of a 2nd liner" already. Greenway, Donato, Ek, and Kunin specifically. We need a "floor of a 2nd liner, ceiling of a 1st liner" if we move Dumba, and the prospect on PHI that matches that description is Frost. It's not a horrible proposal value-wise, I just think Guerin is holding out for quality if he does decide to move Dumba or Brodin.
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Feb 17 at 6:45
#5
Thread Starter
Martynas
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 4,406
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Quoting: MNBassman
Rubstov has a much better chance of being a 4th line center than a 2nd. So basically this offer is a 4C, a late-ish 1st, and 2 pieces the Wild have no use for.


On what basis can you say he's likely to be a 4C? You can't just label him a "4C" as of now. I think he's likely to be either a 3C, or middle six winger. Also, Frost is likely going to be a winger at the NHL level.
Feb 17 at 6:46
#6
Not a burger anymore
Joined: Oct 2017
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Likes: 4,209
Pretty underwhelming return for Dumba...
Feb 17 at 6:47
#7
Thread Starter
Martynas
Joined: Apr 2018
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Quoting: TanSor
Problem is the Wild have a million "floor of a 3rd liner ceiling of a 2nd liner" already. Greenway, Donato, Ek, and Kunin specifically. We need a "floor of a 2nd liner, ceiling of a 1st liner" if we move Dumba, and the prospect on PHI that matches that description is Frost. It's not a horrible proposal value-wise, I just think Guerin is holding out for quality if he does decide to move Dumba or Brodin.


This is fair. I'm always in favour of quality over quantity as well, so I can see why the Wild would probably pass on this deal as well.
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Feb 17 at 11:22
#8
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 266
Likes: 70
Would have to think Wild would start with asking for the home state wonder in Bobby Brink.
 
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