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(LAK/VAN) - Toffoli for Schaller, Madden, 2nd round pick, conditional 4th round pick

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Feb 17 at 8:52
#1
Trade confirmed: Los Angeles Kings - Vancouver Canucks
Trade Details
Los Angeles Kings Acquire:
Los Angeles Kings
Tyler Madden (Signing Rights)
2020 2nd round pick (VAN)
2022 conditional 4th round pick* (VAN)
*Conditions: Pick is transferred if Tyler Toffoli re-signs with the Vancouver Canucks
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Feb 17 at 8:55
#2
The evil stats guy
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If Toffoli had another year on his contract I'd say this was a fair deal, but as a pure rental this seems like too much.
The good news for Canucks fans is that Toffoli is a very underrated forward. He needs to be paired with a finisher I think, but if you can do that you will see his full value.





Feb 17 at 8:55
#3
WE CAN AND WE WILL
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Pretty fair tbh
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Feb 17 at 8:57
#4
Isles for life
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Looks like we'e gonna be relying on Andy Greene to be our next sniper.
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Feb 17 at 8:58
#5
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Another win for a rebuilding team. Good job LA.
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Feb 17 at 8:58
#6
Molson beer is meh
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This really is a sellers market this year

Conservative ACGM users must be feeling like
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Feb 17 at 8:58
#7
Quebec GM v4
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Fair trade for both sides and right in line with the rental market. Average prospect + 2nd round pick for Toffoli.
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Feb 17 at 9:00
#8
RobBlakeIsAnIdiot
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God Blake you ****ing suck! If he waited a week he could have gotten more...
Feb 17 at 9:02
#9
Wild Fan
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Man Canucks don't have their first two picks this year.
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Feb 17 at 9:09
#10
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Fair trade for both sides and right in line with the rental market. Average prospect + 2nd round pick for Toffoli.


Good take, but I will say if they can sign Madden I think he is better than average, he looks great this year and has real hands and instincts.
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Feb 17 at 9:22
#11
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Quoting: Bf3351
God Blake you ****ing suck! If he waited a week he could have gotten more...


I think he killed it. Toffoli is a second line winger rental and he got a second and a good prospect. Looks good to me.
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Feb 17 at 9:23
#12
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Quoting: Patriot12992
Good take, but I will say if they can sign Madden I think he is better than average, he looks great this year and has real hands and instincts.


He’s a Hobey Baker nominee this year so he could be a real steal for the Kings
Feb 17 at 9:29
#13
AwesomeMatthews
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What a huge win by Vancouver. I can't help but feel the Kings messed this up, that is how much you got for Toffoli, when Coleman got a first, Greene got a 2nd, Campbell and Clifford got multiple high draft picks I mean wtf.
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Feb 17 at 9:35
#14
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
What a huge win by Vancouver. I can't help but feel the Kings messed this up, that is how much you got for Toffoli, when Coleman got a first, Greene got a 2nd, Campbell and Clifford got multiple high draft picks I mean wtf.


There isn't any correlation to the Coleman trade and the market price for rentals. Gustav Nyqvist, Marcus Johanssson, Mats Zuccarello, Ryan Dzingel from last year. Standard trade giving up a 2nd round pick and some mid range conditional draft picks or an average prospect.
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Feb 17 at 9:56
#15
Chiggy
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Good deal for LA. Madden is a good prospect and they already have a bunch of good prospects to begin with. I don't really think Vancouver is good enough to make a deadline deal like this though. This is a team that can still miss the playoffs.
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Feb 17 at 10:00
#16
Yee
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LETS GOOO
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Feb 17 at 10:11
#17
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The prospect isn't signed, does Blake have any inside information about Madden wishing to sign for his team or will he re-enter the draft or finish his college career and sign as an UFA ?

This trade could easily become a 2 Rd pick and a rental cash dump for a rental Toffoli.
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Feb 17 at 10:14
#18
rangersandislesfan
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Vancouver is probably going to make the playoffs this year and if you make the playoffs, anything can happen ... they're going for it this year. Good move for both teams IMO.
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Feb 17 at 10:29
#19
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I can't believe no other team was willing to give a first round pick for Toffoli.
Feb 17 at 11:03
#20
RobBlakeIsAnIdiot
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Edited Feb 18 at 7:41
Quoting: BCAPP
I think he killed it. Toffoli is a second line winger rental and he got a second and a good prospect. Looks good to me.


No. Toffoli will hit 50 points this year. He could have gotten better.
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Feb 17 at 11:30
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Big win for the Canucks. Unlike recent trades, this isn't an overpayment.
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Feb 18 at 12:04
#22
GoJetsGo
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Pretty fair trade, kinda surprised Vancouver did something though. Seems pretty risky when they're only four points up on Nashville and Winnipeg. Definitely doesn't seem like the type of season to double down on, especially considering they're already missing their 1st.
Feb 18 at 12:34
#23
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VANCOUVER ADDITIONS:

Tyler Toffoli

VANCOUVER SUBTRACTIONS:

Brock Boeser
Michael Ferland
Timothy Schaller
2nd Round Pick (2020 - TBD)
3rd Round Pick (2018 - Madden)

Seems legit.
Feb 18 at 1:22
#24
Retired V2 & V3 GM
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Fair deal both ways... end of story!
Feb 18 at 5:41
#25
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Madden might be the best piece in this trade.
His point production for an NCAA player is very solid. The question is can they get him to sign.
If I was him I wouldn't sign in LA. In the long run it's probably not worth it tax wise.
Stay in school the extra year and become a FA. People will be knocking down his door at this rate.
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