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Trades

Created by: Isles777
Initial Creation Date: Feb 19, 2020
Published: Feb 19 at 12:08 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Trades
NYI
  1. Grant, Derek
ANA
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav ($1,500,000 retained)
OTT
  1. Dal Colle, Michael
  2. 2020 4th round pick (NYI)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas ($750,000 retained)
DET
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
  • Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2022
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,440,833$0$937,500$59,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$2,250,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Eberle, Jordan
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,100,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
OTT
Namestnikov, Vladislav
$1,750,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Brassard, Derick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
ANA
Grant, Derek
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Greene, Andy
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYI
Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYI
Johnston, Ross
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2

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Feb 19 at 12:30
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trentbarney
Joined: Apr 2019
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@DiehardRedWingsFan58 what do you think of this AA trade? Bellows numbers where not good last year in the AHL 19 points in 73 games but he could still be a solid nhl player down the road. Not sure if I would pull the trigger on this deal or not.
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Feb 19 at 12:48
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Isles777
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Quoting: trentbarney
@DiehardRedWingsFan58 what do you think of this AA trade? Bellows numbers where not good last year in the AHL 19 points in 73 games but he could still be a solid nhl player down the road. Not sure if I would pull the trigger on this deal or not.


The Bridgeport sountigers coaching staff told him at the beginning of last season not to worry about points, to focus on his play away from the puck. This season, his second in the AHL, he had 19 points in 25 games and he earned a call up. He likely projects as a middle 6 winger that can put up 15-20 goals and help on the powerplay. The only thing about his game that is elite is his shot.
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Feb 19 at 12:49
#3
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: trentbarney
@DiehardRedWingsFan58 what do you think of this AA trade? Bellows numbers where not good last year in the AHL 19 points in 73 games but he could still be a solid nhl player down the road. Not sure if I would pull the trigger on this deal or not.


I don't think I'd pull the trigger on this. If it were a 1st + Bellows, yes. but not a 2nd.

Maybe a 2nd + Bellows + Wilde
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Feb 19 at 12:57
#4
Go Wings Go
Joined: Jun 2016
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Quoting: trentbarney
@DiehardRedWingsFan58 what do you think of this AA trade? Bellows numbers where not good last year in the AHL 19 points in 73 games but he could still be a solid nhl player down the road. Not sure if I would pull the trigger on this deal or not.


Personally don't like the deal, Bellows numbers have been pretty under-whelming here. Maybe if Bode Wilde was added to the deal i'd think about it hard and long.
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Feb 19 at 12:58
#5
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Old_Snowman
I don't think I'd pull the trigger on this. If it were a 1st + Bellows, yes. but not a 2nd.

Maybe a 2nd + Bellows + Wilde


Yeah i'd definitely pull the trigger on this.
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Feb 19 at 1:02
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Isles777
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah i'd definitely pull the trigger on this.


Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Personally don't like the deal, Bellows numbers have been pretty under-whelming here. Maybe if Bode Wilde was added to the deal i'd think about it hard and long.


Wilde has a lot of value, I’d do Wilde and a 3rd. Athanasiou isn’t worth an A and B prospect + a 2nd.
Feb 19 at 1:02
#7
trentbarney
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 138
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah i'd definitely pull the trigger on this.


Quoting: Old_Snowman
I don't think I'd pull the trigger on this. If it were a 1st + Bellows, yes. but not a 2nd.

Maybe a 2nd + Bellows + Wilde


Agreed! I felt like Bellows and a 2nd was a little light. Wilde would be a good addition to the trade.
Feb 19 at 1:06
#8
Go Wings Go
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Quoting: Isles777
Wilde has a lot of value, I’d do Wilde and a 3rd. Athanasiou isn’t worth an A and B prospect + a 2nd.


The Blake Coleman trade, Begs to differ. AA is easily worth a 2nd and B level prospect at the very worse.
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Feb 19 at 1:08
#9
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: Isles777
Wilde has a lot of value, I’d do Wilde and a 3rd. Athanasiou isn’t worth an A and B prospect + a 2nd.


Athanasiou also has a lot of value. If he didn't. You wouldn't want him.
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Feb 19 at 1:17
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Isles777
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
The Blake Coleman trade, Begs to differ. AA is easily worth a 2nd and B level prospect at the very worse.


Quoting: Old_Snowman
Athanasiou also has a lot of value. If he didn't. You wouldn't want him.


Blake Coleman and athanasiou aren’t on the same level.
Blake Coleman - elite pker and very good defensively 5 v 5, has a very high xGA. His 16 5 v 5 goals ranks 18th in the NHL.

Athanasiou is a good player, but besides last season he hasn’t really put up great numbers. He’s a solid complimentary piece. Bellows is a B prospect, that’s why I proposed a 2nd and bellows. Maybe DET can pull a 1st if they give back a 3rd or 4th rd pick in the deal. Namestnikov and Derek grant don’t have a ton of value, I still want them.
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Feb 19 at 1:20
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Quoting: Isles777
Blake Coleman and athanasiou aren’t on the same level.
Blake Coleman - elite pker and very good defensively 5 v 5, has a very high xGA. His 16 5 v 5 goals ranks 18th in the NHL.

Athanasiou is a good player, but besides last season he hasn’t really put up great numbers. He’s a solid complimentary piece. Bellows is a B prospect, that’s why I proposed a 2nd and bellows. Maybe DET can pull a 1st if they give back a 3rd or 4th rd pick in the deal. Namestnikov and Derek grant don’t have a ton of value, I still want them.


Hate to break it to you. But AA's numbers are better than Colemans.

Coleman averages 0.39 ppg over his career
AA averages 0.52 ppg over his career

Saying Coleman is elite while AA is complimentary is laughable. They're both complimentary pieces. Coleman isn't going to be playing to Tampa's top line FYI.
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Feb 19 at 1:22
#12
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Quoting: Isles777
Blake Coleman and athanasiou aren’t on the same level.
Blake Coleman - elite pker and very good defensively 5 v 5, has a very high xGA. His 16 5 v 5 goals ranks 18th in the NHL.

Athanasiou is a good player, but besides last season he hasn’t really put up great numbers. He’s a solid complimentary piece. Bellows is a B prospect, that’s why I proposed a 2nd and bellows. Maybe DET can pull a 1st if they give back a 3rd or 4th rd pick in the deal. Namestnikov and Derek grant don’t have a ton of value, I still want them.


Or hold on to him for another season.
Feb 19 at 1:32
#13
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Isles777
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Quoting: Old_Snowman
Hate to break it to you. But AA's numbers are better than Colemans.

Coleman averages 0.39 ppg over his career
AA averages 0.52 ppg over his career

Saying Coleman is elite while AA is complimentary is laughable. They're both complimentary pieces. Coleman isn't going to be playing to Tampa's top line FYI.


Never said Coleman overall Coleman is elite, but he is a top 5 pker in the NHL, hence “elite pker”. He brings a lot more value to a team right now than athanasiou, that’s not an opinion. Go on naturalstattrick or any other site evaluating players and you’ll see.

Being ranked 18th in the NHL for 5 v 5 goals while playing for one of the worst teams in the league is impressive
 
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