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Carolina Trade idea

Created by: Xmarshldillon
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 19, 2020
Published: Feb. 19, 2020
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The market seems rather steep this deadline so I believe Lehner alone can get a first, but with Gustafsson playing better in 2020 and the Hawks taking back Reimer I believe there is a way a package deal can be made here.

The prospect doesn't have to be Suzuki but I believe something else has to come to Chicago, whether that is another pick or a prospect.

Adding TVR is just so Carolina isnt carrying 8 dmen when Hamilton comes back if they acquire a Dman.

The Mitchell signing I believe will happen after his NCAA season in April.
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Mitchell, Ian
3$925,000
Trades
CAR
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
  2. Lehner, Robin ($2,500,000 retained)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (CHI)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$61,321,686$0$7,665,000$20,178,314
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$2,475,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 5
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 3
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Mitchell, Ian
$925,000$925,000
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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Me thinks you forgot a trade
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Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Me thinks you forgot a trade


I wanted to add a dmen bc I realized Carolina would have 9 Dmen.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
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I wanted to add a dmen bc I realized Carolina would have 9 Dmen.


That's still a no from Carolina. In terms of analytics, Reimer has been as good as if not better than Lehner, and the base stats aren't too far apart. Why would Carolina give ALL OF THAT for a negligible upgrade? People don't realise how good Reimer has been. As for gus.... meh. There are options, but if it's a reasonable price I don't mind trading for him, but I think Hawks fans and canes haves have a very different feel for a fair price
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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That's still a no from Carolina. In terms of analytics, Reimer has been as good as if not better than Lehner, and the base stats aren't too far apart. Why would Carolina give ALL OF THAT for a negligible upgrade? People don't realise how good Reimer has been. As for gus.... meh. There are options, but if it's a reasonable price I don't mind trading for him, but I think Hawks fans and canes haves have a very different feel for a fair price


Well then swap reimer for Mrazek. I just think Lehner would be a good 1A in Carolina, also I dont trust Reimer come playoff time.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Xmarshldillon
Well then swap reimer for Mrazek. I just think Lehner would be a good 1A in Carolina, also I dont trust Reimer come playoff time.


If CAR fans were being honest with themselves....they wouldn't either. ALL of them we're 100% positive Mrazek was the guy...until he wasn't. Even with Douglas Ham out...CAR is still 2nd best in the league in shots allowed. Reimer's definitely been the better of the (2) goalies, but they have a good defense. OR CAR needs to go find a 2nd Hamilton...which isn't happening.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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Who are the 9 defenseman we are carrying???
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That's still a no from Carolina. In terms of analytics, Reimer has been as good as if not better than Lehner, and the base stats aren't too far apart. Why would Carolina give ALL OF THAT for a negligible upgrade? People don't realise how good Reimer has been. As for gus.... meh. There are options, but if it's a reasonable price I don't mind trading for him, but I think Hawks fans and canes haves have a very different feel for a fair price


You consistently use the same talking point that Carolina doesn’t “need” a goaltender. Whether this true or not, it has already been reported they are interested in Lehner whether you like it or not. They are also shopping for D and a good amount of cheap defensemen have already been moved. This proposal makes sense based off all the reports even if it doesn’t fit what you like.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:44 p.m.
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You consistently use the same talking point that Carolina doesn’t “need” a goaltender. Whether this true or not, it has already been reported they are interested in Lehner whether you like it or not. They are also shopping for D and a good amount of cheap defensemen have already been moved. This proposal makes sense based off all the reports even if it doesn’t fit what you like.


Just to play devils advocate here. While I believe Lehner is the single best acquisition CAR could make... Where are you seeing this reportedly? Just curcious.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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Who are the 9 defenseman we are carrying???


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Who are the 9 defenseman we are carrying???


Typo, I was referencing how if they acquire a dman and Hamilton comes back they would have 8 Dmen on the roster.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
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Just to play devils advocate here. While I believe Lehner is the single best acquisition CAR could make... Where are you seeing this reportedly? Just curcious.


https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-tyler-toffoli-trade-vancouver-canucks/

Number 7. Plus everyone knows Carolina is looking for D and Gus is cheap
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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If CAR fans were being honest with themselves....they wouldn't either. ALL of them we're 100% positive Mrazek was the guy...until he wasn't. Even with Douglas Ham out...CAR is still 2nd best in the league in shots allowed. Reimer's definitely been the better of the (2) goalies, but they have a good defense. OR CAR needs to go find a 2nd Hamilton...which isn't happening.


The Canes haven't seen a truly good goaltender since Ward's first 2 years in the league. Anyone that comes in and does a good job for a short period is seen as a great goalie until they aren't.
The league knows how good Lehner is and every front office that is questioning their goaltending is looking into acquiring him. The Canes are one of those teams.
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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The Canes haven't seen a truly good goaltender since Ward's first 2 years in the league. Anyone that comes in and does a good job for a short period is seen as a great goalie until they aren't.
The league knows how good Lehner is and every front office that is questioning their goaltending is looking into acquiring him. The Canes are one of those teams.


I agree, but I'll also admit...if you were a GM on the fence yesterday....his game last night wasn't inspiring. Not all those goals were on him, but if I'm being honest….I could assign 3 of them to him.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.
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I agree, but I'll also admit...if you were a GM on the fence yesterday....his game last night wasn't inspiring. Not all those goals were on him, but if I'm being honest….I could assign 3 of them to him.


Agree on that. his last 2-3 games haven;t been as stellar as pretty much every game before that this year.
It is possible the contract and deadline situation is beginning to get to him at this time of the year. I wish the Hawks would pony up and sign him to a long term deal. I think that the best option organizationally moving forward. Crow only has 2-3 years left and hasn't been what he was before all the concussions, and they don't have any true A or B+ prospects in the system at goalie.
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Agree on that. his last 2-3 games haven;t been as stellar as pretty much every game before that this year.
It is possible the contract and deadline situation is beginning to get to him at this time of the year. I wish the Hawks would pony up and sign him to a long term deal. I think that the best option organizationally moving forward. Crow only has 2-3 years left and hasn't been what he was before all the concussions, and they don't have any true A or B+ prospects in the system at goalie.


I would be perfectly fine with extending him. It's just that...his play last night wasn't exactly inspiring to extend him for what he wants either! It's a catch 22. AND while i could 100% see what you're saying being true with regards to this affecting his play...that in itself ALSO isn't exactly inspiring either. Pressure is on for either an extension or trade...he lets up 6.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.
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I would be perfectly fine with extending him. It's just that...his play last night wasn't exactly inspiring to extend him for what he wants either! It's a catch 22. AND while i could 100% see what you're saying being true with regards to this affecting his play...that in itself ALSO isn't exactly inspiring either. Pressure is on for either an extension or trade...he lets up 6.


It was one game. If it continues longer I would definitely agree with you.
He's stood on his head all year. Even the two before that he didn't play bad per se but he just wasn't shutting everything down like he has the rest of the year.
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