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(TOR/OTT) - Luchuk and a conditional 2021 6th RD pick for Veronneau

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Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.
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Trade confirmed: Ottawa Senators - Toronto Maple Leafs
Trade Details
Ottawa Senators Acquire:
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Aaron Luchuk · $0$759,166$70,000 (AHL/JR)
2021 6th round pick (TOR - #185 - Vyacheslav Peksa) [Conditional]*
*Conditions: Sens receive the 2021 6th round pick if Veronneau plays in 10 NHL games for Toronto in 2019-20 or 10 NHL games in 2020-21.

Result: Veronneau did not play in 10 games in either season, the pick does not transfer
Sum: $0$759,166$70,000
Change: $0
Change: -$165,834
Change: +$70,000
Toronto Maple Leafs Acquire:
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Max Veronneau · $0$925,000$70,000 (AHL/JR)
Sum: $0$925,000$70,000
Change: $0
Change: +$165,834
Change: +$70,000
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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I see it as Luchuk for Verroneau.

This trade is a wash. Neither player will ever amount to an NHL player (I'll end up eating my words here)
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Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:10 p.m.
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Fair tbh
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:11 p.m.
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whomst for whomst
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.
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Interesting to see Luchuk go back to the senators as we acquired him in that Ceci deal. But fair trade overall.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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Ottawa got the pick so a win for them.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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I remember Max being highly touted out of college. Luchuk will never be more than an AHL player, so I like this deal for the Leafs. Get a higher chance at having an NHL player for a conditional 6th that might not even get moved.

Good day for Dubas on the low end, lets see if he can go big
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Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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I remember Max being highly touted out of college. Luchuk will never be more than an AHL player, so I like this deal for the Leafs. Get a higher chance at having an NHL player for a conditional 6th that might not even get moved.

Good day for Dubas on the low end, lets see if he can go big


The big part of this was The AHL deal sending Darren Archibald to Belleville. Very valuable depth addition for a Belleville team gearing up for a Calder Cup run.

Not So Mad Max looked good in the NHL when they first signed him, but he was pretty mediocre in the AHL, even being a regular scratch. He's a wicked fast skater and he has an NHL shot, but I doubt he'll ever be an NHL player. As far as the pick is concerned, he won't play ten games this year, and he'd be pretty hard pressed to make in next year. Could be a 4th liner, but he's hard pressed to find a niche, considering he's not a PK type.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
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The big part of this was The AHL deal sending Darren Archibald to Belleville. Very valuable depth addition for a Belleville team gearing up for a Calder Cup run.

Not So Mad Max looked good in the NHL when they first signed him, but he was pretty mediocre in the AHL, even being a regular scratch. He's a wicked fast skater and he has an NHL shot, but I doubt he'll ever be an NHL player. As far as the pick is concerned, he won't play ten games this year, and he'd be pretty hard pressed to make in next year. Could be a 4th liner, but he's hard pressed to find a niche, considering he's not a PK type.


I agree that he is far from guaranteed, but Luchuk is as close to 0% as you can reasonably predict, so I consider this a win.
Although this does make sense for Bellville too
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.
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I agree that he is far from guaranteed, but Luchuk is as close to 0% as you can reasonably predict, so I consider this a win.
Although this does make sense for Bellville too


If I was going to put money on anyone in this deal making it as an NHL regular, it'd probably be the conditional 6th.

I'd love to see Maximillian make it though. Good kid, and incredibly smart man. Went to Princeton to be a Mechanical Engineer while still being a full time Student Athlete.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
If I was going to put money on anyone in this deal making it as an NHL regular, it'd probably be the conditional 6th.

I'd love to see Maximillian make it though. Good kid, and incredibly smart man. Went to Princeton to be a Mechanical Engineer while still being a full time Student Athlete.


Eh, I guess that is if the 6th even gets moved, and if it were moved it mean Max has a real shot so I'd still say its him, but whatever. Its an AHL deal lol.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 8:54 p.m.
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Great trade by the leafs.
Feb. 19, 2020 at 9:14 p.m.
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Has anyone told Dubas he is the Leafs GM not the Marlies ?
Feb. 19, 2020 at 11:33 p.m.
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Ottawa got the pick so a win for them.


Did they though?
Feb. 20, 2020 at 7:31 a.m.
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Veronneau was overhyped; I also thought he'd be much better than he is. Still, if he gets pressed into duty, I still have hope that he'll surprise.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 7:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
Ottawa got the pick so a win for them.


Ok yea they really need a 6th
Feb. 20, 2020 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
Ok yea they really need a 6th


This trade is ahl deal so getting a pick counts as a win
Feb. 20, 2020 at 9:39 a.m.
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So pretty much it was:

To TOR:

Cody Ceci
Ben Harpur
Max Veronneau
2020 3rd round pick

To OTT:

Nikita Zaitsev
Connor Brown
MIchael Carcone
Conditional 2021 6th round pick
Feb. 20, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
This trade is ahl deal so getting a pick counts as a win


Oh pls. They win an Ahl trade
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.
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Veronneau was overhyped; I also thought he'd be much better than he is. Still, if he gets pressed into duty, I still have hope that he'll surprise.


You would have killed for Veronneau in the GM Game... You were caught up in the hype of him smile.
I like this for the Leafs though. Gives them more options for a wing depth trade
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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You would have killed for Veronneau in the GM Game... You were caught up in the hype of him smile.
I like this for the Leafs though. Gives them more options for a wing depth trade


He and his linemate Ryan Kuffner were among my many poaches. I wonder if they'd be any better if they remained on the same team...
Oct. 30, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.
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An AHL filler and a conditional draft pick for a healthy scratch most nights.


Sounds fair.
 
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