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(MTL/PIT) - Barber, Varone for Blandisi, Lucchini

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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:18
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:19
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Buljujarvi
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Slight edge to MTL because Blandisi still has potential imo.
Feb 20, 2020 at 1:20
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Montreal Canadiens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Fair Deal
No One
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:21
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Dumb trades are easy
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Barber was good enough to be called back this season... And then traded
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:27
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was there any point to this?
Feb 20, 2020 at 1:27
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Of the pieces, only Lucchini can really be considered a prospect. He has an outside chance of surprising some people, so edge MTL. But still, it's a very small chance.
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:33
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xNogaitx
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This is a character move.

There was growing discontent from Barber & Varone who were hoping to get a shot at the NHL this year with the Habs but haven't gotten it. Reports were coming that they were getting sidelined in the AHL due to their "attitude" impacting the team.
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:34
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Quoting: xNogaitx
This is a character move.

There was growing discontent from Barber & Varone who were hoping to get a shot at the NHL this year with the Habs but haven't gotten it. Reports were coming that they were getting sidelined in the AHL due to their "attitude" impacting the team.


Think that because they are veterans they will be given more chances. You have to earn your ice time regardless of what league you are in.
Feb 20, 2020 at 1:35
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The AHL teams need player too.
Feb 20, 2020 at 1:38
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Also worth noting:

Montreal got 2 RFAs
Pittsburgh got 2 UFAs

Also Varone and Barber count as Veterans while Blandisi and Luchini are both exempt
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Feb 20, 2020 at 1:57
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Clear win for WBS penguins. Trade will have no impact in the NHL though
Feb 20, 2020 at 2:04
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Quoting: mhockey91
Clear win for WBS penguins. Trade will have no impact in the NHL though


Two players that are Veteran Status. They are better point producers no doubt, but there are many other factors here.
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Feb 20, 2020 at 2:31
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Two players that are Veteran Status. They are better point producers no doubt, but there are many other factors here.


What are the other factors? None of them will be NHLer’s. WBS is loading up for a playoff run. Don’t know what the Laval is thinking. It’s a clear win for WBS. Maybe they’re hoping Blandisi and Lucianni will develop into good AHLers one day?
Feb 20, 2020 at 2:33
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Quoting: mhockey91
What are the other factors? None of them will be NHLer’s. WBS is loading up for a playoff run. Don’t know what the Laval is thinking. It’s a clear win for WBS. Maybe they’re hoping Blandisi and Lucianni will develop into good AHLers one day?


Varone and Barber both count as Veteran players. In the AHL you are only allowed to dress 6 a night. They were traded because of their attitudes. They were both scratched on Monday for attitude problems and then played on the 4th line last night. Hopefully WBS can change that around, but you don't want players with ****ty attitudes on a playoff team .
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Feb 20, 2020 at 2:35
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EYY I'M PLAYIN HOCKEY OVE HIAH
Feb 20, 2020 at 3:26
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Quoting: mhockey91
What are the other factors? None of them will be NHLer’s. WBS is loading up for a playoff run. Don’t know what the Laval is thinking. It’s a clear win for WBS. Maybe they’re hoping Blandisi and Lucianni will develop into good AHLers one day?


LAV scratched them because of attitude issues on and off the ice. My feeling is that when Poehling and Kotkaniemi were sent down, the Vets did not like to have their icetime severely reduced. They have lost the last 10 games I think, so they had to do something to shake things up.
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Feb 20, 2020 at 7:20
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Quoting: drewjenkins
POLL OPTIONS:

Montreal Canadiens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Fair Deal
No One


Or

Fair Deal
Montreal Canadiens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Laval Rocket
Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins

This is an AHL deal done almost exclusively for AHL reasons, as others have noted.
Feb 20, 2020 at 7:24
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I like this move for Montreal a lot.
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Feb 20, 2020 at 7:26
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Quoting: rebecca
Or

Fair Deal
Montreal Canadiens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Laval Rocket
Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins

This is an AHL deal done almost exclusively for AHL reasons, as others have noted.


Not sure about the WBSP, but it helps Laval because we get 2 quality AHL players who don't count towards the veteran limit. Also worth noting their terrible attitudes.
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Feb 21, 2020 at 3:58
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Not sure about the WBSP, but it helps Laval because we get 2 quality AHL players who don't count towards the veteran limit. Also worth noting their terrible attitudes.


Absolutely in agreement.

For the WBS Penguins - they’re in a tight battle with Charlotte and Springfield for a playoff spot in the Atlantic Division right now (2 spots and 3 teams). With the 26th ranked offence in the AHL they’re obviously looking to add some (young-ish) veteran firepower to kickstart their anemic offence, giving goalies Casey DeSmith & Dustin Tokarski - who have both done well this season - some slight margin for error. Barber and Varone have produced well at the AHL level in the past and, if they’re going to be given an opportunity to succeed there then they should be able to thrive once again.

The Pens have the following “veterans” on hand in WBS (Trotman has been back and forth all year):
- C Phil Varone (612gp)
- RW Riley Barber (288gp)
- LW/C Andrew Agozzino (540gp)
- LW Jamie Devane (344gp)
- LD David Warsofsky (500gp)
- LD Kevin Czuckman (386gp)
- RD Zach Trotman (343gp)

Also, getting close to the 260 game cutoff is Cole Cassels (254gp) but otherwise everyone else has well under 200gp at the pro levels.

For the rest of the season Riley Barber can count aside from the 5 player limit as he’s still played fewer than 320gp, what I consider the “transitional veteran slot”. That would allow the Pens to dress Warsofsky & Czuckman on the blueline plus Agozzino, Varone, and Devane up front (or Trotman when he ends up back in WBS) as well as Barber. When Cassels hits 260gp then it would mean having to sit him or Riley Barber or use one of them towards the 5 full-fledged veteran spots (meaning Devane definitely sits). All in all the Pens at the AHL level have space to accommodate a couple of Vets so the deal makes sense in that regard for a team chasing a playoff berth. The WBS Penguins had the longest streak in NA pro sports and made the playoffs for almost 20 years in a row til last season. The fans there expect winners so the organization needs to take steps to at show they’re trying.
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Feb 21, 2020 at 11:10
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Below Market Value
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Mama mia, that's a spicy trade!

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Mar 11, 2020 at 3:14
#22
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Thought I'd update this trade

Joseph Blandisi 3GP 1P +1
Jacob Lucchini 7GP 4P +2

for

Riley Barber 6GP 5P -5
Phil Varone 5GP 4P -8

Records since trade

Rockets 6-1
Penguins 2-5
 
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