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(ANA/BOS) - Kase for Backes, Andersson, 1st round pick

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Feb. 21, 2020 at 12:59 p.m.
#1
Trade confirmed: Anaheim Ducks - Boston Bruins
Trade Details
Anaheim Ducks Acquire:
Anaheim Ducks
David Backes ($1,500,000 retained - 25%) · $3,425,000$4,500,000$0 (AHL/JR)
Axel Andersson · $0$795,000$70,000 (AHL/JR)
2020 1st round pick (BOS - #27 - Jacob Perreault)
Sum: $3,425,000$5,295,000$0
Change: +$825,000
Change: +$2,695,000
Change: -$95,930,000
Boston Bruins Acquire:
Boston Bruins
Ondrej Kase · $2,600,000$2,600,000$2,600,000
Sum: $2,600,000$2,600,000$2,600,000
Change: -$825,000
Change: -$2,695,000
Change: +$2,600,000
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
#2
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This is very good for Boston.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.
#3
Just Keep Swimming
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Knowing BOS is retaining makes it a little better for ANH, but WTF ARE YOU DOING BM?


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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:02 p.m.
#4
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Good for both teams, Ducks add a nice RD prospect and get a first, Kase needed a change of scenery as much as I love him as a player, Backes cap hit doesn't hinder us at all really
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:02 p.m.
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What a steal for Boston.

Getting a middle 6 forward for a 1st round pick is already a good deal in this years market, then you dump Backes on them and it's a steal. I hate when my Rival's win trades.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
#6
Dom6Yotes
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a very good trade for Boston not only they acquired Kase but they gained cap space in doing so
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
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I voted Anaheim. Kase is already in his mid 20s and has never hit 40 points and you get a 1st rounder back.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
#8
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Such a sweetheart deal for the Bruins. Somebody euthanise Bob Murray god damnit
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
#9
Pain for Shane
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Makes Dubas look like a clown after giving up a 1st to dump Marleau
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Makes Dubas look like a clown after giving up a 1st to dump Marleau


Backes contract is different BO cost is $4M not 6
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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I voted fair, because it's not as if it was free for Boston to dump a contract and add a good winger, but I think Boston did really well here.

They didn't fully get out from under Backes, but they are paying $1.5M for Backes and $2.6M for Kase next year, so $4.1M total instead of the $4.925M for nothing. That's basically $800k in cap savings and grabbing a forward with some good upside.

Kase has had a really disappointing season, but he is a guy who has consistently created scoring chances and shots at a rate usually reserved for higher end players. Boston should give him a place in the line up to play where maybe he can make good on that potential. If he does, and they managed to get a 20+ goal speedy winger while saving cap space, that's worth the price.

It wasn't enough to say that Boston wins this deal (as that implies Anaheim lost it), simply because Anaheim managed to get a 1st and a prospect for a player whose injuries and struggles could potentially start to drive down his value. Anaheim probably didn't have to trade Kase, but he is approaching an age where he probably isn't going to be a big part of a rebuild as this team likely has a lot of work to get back to contending. So I don't mind this trade for them.

Overall, I think Boston did a great job getting a useful player, shedding salary, and probably buying a little low on someone. This move actually creates space for an additional move if they want, and Boston is one of only a handful of teams where I think going for it hard over the next 2-3 years at all costs is completely reasonable, so giving up a 1st is almost a no brainer.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Makes Dubas look like a clown after giving up a 1st to dump Marleau


It was awful. No one has ever payed that much for dumping a contract. Carolina robbed Dubas.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Makes Dubas look like a clown after giving up a 1st to dump Marleau


Quoting: Salzy
Backes contract is different BO cost is $4M not 6


Carolina artificiality lowered their cap by 6 million. Backes will probably play in Anaheim. Big difference but gotta bring the Leafs into this, right?
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
#14
Pain for Shane
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Quoting: Salzy
Backes contract is different BO cost is $4M not 6


True but still the Marleau contract was only another year I believe
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
#15
LETS GO PREDS
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this is honestly a good trade for the bruins. they just dumped some cap and got kase. the only bad thing is them giving away their first round pick.
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
#16
Pain for Shane
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Quoting: mondo
Carolina artificiality lowered their cap by 6 million. Backes will probably play in Anaheim. Big difference but gotta bring the Leafs into this, right?


Everything has to affect the leafs somehow, right?
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
True but still the Marleau contract was only another year I believe


Yeah, different situations too, Cap savings for BOS only roughly 800k with the retention
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Everything has to affect the leafs somehow, right?


You're the first person in this topic to bring them up.
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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Buljujarvi
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I like Anderson a lot. 😥
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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Time for Leafs to sell now...
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
#21
Emotionally in 2018
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I don't love Kase as much as the heavy-analytics people do, but I like the deal a lot for Boston. The price was reasonable for them to add the 2RW they desperately needed and shed Backes' contract. I say fair deal. Kase will have a really nice impact in their top six and it'll be well worth the price.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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Whoa. I didn't think Boston would actually be able to pull this off. Got rid of Backes AND got themselves a depth winger? Well Done Boston
Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
#23
Pain for Shane
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Quoting: mondo
You're the first person in this topic to bring them up.


Not so much the Leafs themselves but mainly Dubas
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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Like this deal for both sides. As a Canucks fan gives me hope that there is a market for a deal like this and JB can get completed like this involving Eriksson.
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Feb. 21, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.
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Remember when people said it would take a 1st just to move Backes? Again you were wrong.
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