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TDL with CAR NYI TBL - tell me how much I suck please

Created by: Jco5ta5
Initial Creation Date: Feb 23, 2020
Published: Feb 23 at 11:29 am
Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
Team Explanation
I tried to back off my asking prices from the past with these trades but... it is the TDL and GMs tend to overpay sometimes. So here are my explanations. Please read before you spew hate and "hang up the phone".

CAR: they need a goalie. Bottom line. Lehner is best available that can be traded. He'd do well with the D in CAR. So I plucked a D prospect and 2nd pick which is conditional to a 1st if they go to SCF or he resigns. D prospect (which they have tons of) and 2nd pick not bad for a Vezina-esque goalie. I took Forsberg back since CAR has too many goalies under contract (max is 6).

NYI: They need some more offensive help on wing. Saad is not flashy or puts up 1.0+ppg but he is a perenniel 20 goal, 50 point per season player who plays 200 ft, PP and PK. One of the most consistent and hardest workers on the Hawks. I took Bellows who most NYI fans were trading earlier this year who is on cusp of NHL and retained some salary to help NYI resign their players. No picks as this is a hockey trade and not a rental.

TBL: they need D help due to injuries. They are a high offense machine with Stammer and Kuch and Gus can fit right in on PP. I took a prospect that I don't know much about but appears to be putting up a good season in the QMJHL and is only 20 years old so will need some development but may turn into a nice piece for the Hawks. I asked for a 3rd pick conditional to a 2nd on resigning. I think that's pretty decent for both signs. Low risk, high reward on both sides. It's possible that Fortier is a different player. I literally don't know much about him so please TBL fans let me know if I'm on point or far off on him.

I signed Ian Mitchell because I expect him to be in the NHL when his season is over in Denver.
Trades
CHI
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. Bean, Jake
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
Forsberg in trade since CAR has too many goalie contracts and exceeds limits.

Draft pick becomes 1st round 2020 pick if CAR makes SCF or Lehner resigns.
CAR
  1. Lehner, Robin
CHI
  1. Fortier, Gabriel
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Third round pick becomes 2020 2nd round pick if Gustafsson resigns with TBL
TBL
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
CHI
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
NYI
  1. Saad, Brandon ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Retaining 1.5M of Saad salary keeps his Cap Hit for NYI lower for next year and is a bit of a sweetener for adding a higher end prospect. He's not a rental as he has another year in his contract, so no picks or conditions.
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Brandon Saad: $1,500,000 (25%)
  • Robin Lehner: $2,500,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CHI
NYR
CHI
TBL
CHI
CHI
CHI
2021
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
MTL
2022
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
CHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$63,183,460$0$8,222,500$18,316,540
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
Kubalik, Dominik
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
CHI
Toews, Jonathan
$10,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Caggiula, Drake
$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$778,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
CHI
Dach, Kirby
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$10,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
NYI
Bellows, Kieffer
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
CHI
Kämpf, David
$1,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CHI
Strome, Dylan
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 2
CHI
Highmore, Matthew
$775,833
C
RFA - 1
CHI
Carpenter, Ryan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CHI
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
CHI
Boqvist, Adam
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
CHI
Crawford, Corey
$6,000,000
G
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Määttä, Olli
$4,083,333
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
CHI
Lankinen, Kevin
$925,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
CHI
Seeler, Nick
$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CHI
Carlsson, Lucas
$792,500
D
RFA - 2
CHI
Smith, Zack
$3,250,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
CHI
De Haan, Calvin
$4,550,000
LD
UFA - 3
CHI
Wedin, Anton
$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
CHI
Seabrook, Brent
$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
Sikura, Dylan
$750,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
CHI
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3

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Feb 23 at 11:30
#1
Hawks and Isles Fan
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FORSBERG COMES HOME LFG
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Feb 23 at 11:32
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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
FORSBERG COMES HOME LFG


He retakes his throne in Rockford lol.
Feb 23 at 11:37
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Your under the cap floor of 60.2 Million. Plus Gustafsson would make tampa over the cap
Feb 23 at 11:52
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
Your under the cap floor of 60.2 Million. Plus Gustafsson would make tampa over the cap


Good to know about the cap. Hawks will likely add a AHL player to scratch and carry 23 man roster. Also I think I'm artificially below because I signed a college player and put him on LTIR which is premature. He'll sign in late March when college season is over and then join the team full time. His $925,000 is probably causing that. Let me adjust.

As far as Tampa, I'm sure they can make another move to get under or to satisfy both CHI and TBL, if they have a UFA cap dump (Rutta maybe?) that could be added in the trade.
Feb 23 at 12:13
#5
Roviet_Sussia
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CHI wouldn't make any of these trades for those returns. Don't cater to the mob.
Feb 23 at 12:20
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Quoting: Roviet_Sussia
CHI wouldn't make any of these trades for those returns. Don't cater to the mob.


Thanks for being gentle. Any thoughts on improving the trades or alternate trades? Or maybe stand pat?
Feb 23 at 12:26
#7
Hoping for Perfetti
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I can’t find anywhere that says there is a limit to the amount of goalies you can have signed. Pretty sure it’s just something EA made up for their Franchise Mode.
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Feb 23 at 12:27
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
Your under the cap floor of 60.2 Million. Plus Gustafsson would make tampa over the cap


In real life Seabrook, Shaw, & De Haan count against the cap.
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Feb 23 at 12:30
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Roviet_Sussia
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
Thanks for being gentle. Any thoughts on improving the trades or alternate trades? Or maybe stand pat?


Any trade for Saad or Lehner starts at a 1st. Gustafsson likely starts at a 2nd.

Saad's return should be a pretty good haul when you look at what Coleman got NJD. Isle fans seem pretty alright with a 1st + Bellows or Wilde.
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Feb 23 at 12:49
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Quoting: Roviet_Sussia
Any trade for Saad or Lehner starts at a 1st. Gustafsson likely starts at a 2nd.

Saad's return should be a pretty good haul when you look at what Coleman got NJD. Isle fans seem pretty alright with a 1st + Bellows or Wilde.


I hear ya and don’t disagree it’s just every time I post something like that I get crucified on this damn site. So I eased off the gas a little.
Feb 23 at 12:50
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
In real life Seaibrook, Shaw, & De Haan count against the cap.


So they count but there’s cap relief which can be used. Got it.
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Feb 23 at 1:51
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Forsberg would likely use the "putting a pistol to your head" clause before going back to Chicago... I mean Rockford.
Feb 24 at 8:31
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They all hang up the... wait actually these are all actually really good trades good job
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