Colorado fans please answer objectively

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Created by: SlafCaufZuki

Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2020

Published: Feb. 24, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Something is brewing with Colorado... We have been scouting each other for weeks and insiders have suggested that there is mutual interest in making a deal centered around Thomas Tatar. Sakic and Bergevin have even gone as far as to troll the media when asked questions about it (lmao).
So, Colorado fans, what would you guys be willing to give up. Assuming a first round pick is involved and blue chip prospects like Byram, Newhook and Timmins are unavailable (just like Sakic confirmed), who would the Avalanche part ways with? Kaut? Bowers? Beaucage? Kamanev? Graves? even Jost? A combination of two of them? An additional pick? What would a fair package that would benefit both sides (Montreal gets fair market value and Colorado doesn’t overpay too much)? From what I’ve heard, a 1st, Kaut and another asset (3rd or decent prospect) would seem plausible.
Anyway, Colorado fans, please leave comments in this AGM about this. Let’s hope for a MTL-COL deal centered around Tatar takes place for the sake of both clubs. :)

Trades

MTL

2021 4th round pick (DAL)

DAL

Cousins, Nick

MTL

2021 4th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Thompson, Nate

MTL

2021 7th round pick (CAR)

CAR

Folin, Christian

MTL

Beaucage, Alex [Reserve List]
Bowers, Shane
Graves, Ryan
Greer, AJ
Henry, Nicholas
Jost, Tyson
Kamenev, Vladislav
Kaut, Martin
2020 1st round pick (COL)
2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
2020 4th round pick (COL)
2021 2nd round pick (COL)
2021 3rd round pick (COL)
2021 4th round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Assets in play. Not all of them would be part of a potential return obviously. Which players would be part of the return in your opinion if a COL-MTL deal centred around Tatar took place?

COL

Tatar, Tomas

MTL

COL

Lindgren, Charlie

Additional Details:

Maybe Lindgren could be added in the deal? Colorado has stated clearly that they are looking for a 3rd-string goalie.

Buyouts

Steve Mason: $1,366,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)

Buried

Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$81,500,000	$72,205,475	$0	$1,510,000	$9,294,525

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Domi, Max $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Weise, Dale $2,350,000$2,350,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Greer, AJ $735,000$735,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 3	Henry, Nicholas $798,333$798,333 ($65,000$65K) RW UFA - 3
	Teasdale, Joël $763,333$763,333 ($70,000$70K) RW, LW UFA - 3
	Bowers, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($100,000$100K) C RFA - 3
	Jost, Tyson $885,833$885,833 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1
	Kamenev, Vladislav $750,000$750,000 C RFA - 1
	Kaut, Martin $894,167$894,167 RW RFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Alzner, Karl $4,625,000$4,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 7	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
Mete, Victor $748,333$748,333 LD/RD UFA - 1
Ouellet, Xavier $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $735,000$735,000 LD UFA - 1

Feb. 24, 2020 at 6:26 a.m.

WellIDK

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I'd say Jost would definitely be available. Needs a change of scenery. Looks like he'll be probably be a 4th liner when everybody is healthy. Bowers might also be available

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 7:46 a.m.

csick

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I could see Kaut and a 2020 1st

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 7:50 a.m.

NHLfan10506

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I’d take Graves, Beaucage, and 1st....but think Jost, Kaut, 1st more likely

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 8:03 a.m.

SankFeravalli

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I think it’s a deal centered around Jost & Graves, and probably another prospect/pick. Jost has flown up TSN’s trade bait list, and Adrian Dater reporter that the Habs are hot after Ryan Graves. It makes sense for Colorado to move those two as they have Bowers & Timmins/Byram on the way and need roster spots for them.
I don’t think it’s Tatar though. I think it’s Domi or Drouin

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 8:22 a.m.

pinslack

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I’d take Graves, Beaucage, and 1st....but think Jost, Kaut, 1st more likely

Agreed. I cant see a contending team trading a 18min LD in Graves... Who's gonna take his place if this happens? Does COL want a D in return?

I think Bergevin was in COL to see Jost and Kaut too

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 9:08 a.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: pinslack

Agreed. I cant see a contending team trading a 18min LD in Graves... Who's gonna take his place if this happens? Does COL want a D in return?

I think Bergevin was in COL to see Jost and Kaut too

If MTL can walk away with Kaut, Beaucage and a 1st, I'd say mission accomplished. Could always swap someone like Juulsen along with 1st on draft day for better d-man.

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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.

SlafCaufZuki

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Nick

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Quoting: Mergus80

Definitely not Drouin, he was really good before his injury so there is not reason to deal him yet. I love Domi and I love the fact that he wants to be a Hab (à la Subban), but his play has been underwhelming. I think he bounces back next year and gets 60 points, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get dealt for a guy like Dumba, for instance, since we are loaded up front.

Feb. 24, 2020 at 8:02 p.m.

SankFeravalli

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Quoting: DriveFor25

Looks like we were all wrong

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