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Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2020
Published: Feb. 24, 2020
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25$81,500,000$82,903,331$0$1,180,000-$1,403,331
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.
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Why? It’s better that what people expected by about 200K
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Why? It’s better that what people expected by about 200K


Because he is a flustercuck of a defenseman lol
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.
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Because he is a flustercuck of a defenseman lol


At 5M sure, at 1.3 hes better then Johnson
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:56 a.m.
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Because he is a flustercuck of a defenseman lol


Disagree. He is a very good defensive defender. He didn't justify the 5 mil price tag due to lack of offense. But the guys is a very good defenseman and adds lots of grit on that back end. Something needed for the playoffs.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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Because he is a flustercuck of a defenseman lol


It’s a pro rated contract at the deadline without giving up anything at all, it’s a really good deal for a team that can’t have enough d men going into the playoffs.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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I dont know why are people so mad about this signing. We got our needed depth RHD without giving up any assets. Good signing imo.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:16 a.m.
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At 5M sure, at 1.3 hes better then Johnson


What does Johnson have to do with anything? Having a bad defenseman on your team regardless of price is bad lol.

Quoting: Chopper02
Disagree. He is a very good defensive defender. He didn't justify the 5 mil price tag due to lack of offense. But the guys is a very good defenseman and adds lots of grit on that back end. Something needed for the playoffs.


No he isn’t a very good defensive defender. When on the ice his team consistently gets out chanced, out shot, and out scored. That’s not being good defensively. He is terrible at driving possession. And isn’t a very good skater either.

Quoting: SmugTkachuk
It’s a pro rated contract at the deadline without giving up anything at all, it’s a really good deal for a team that can’t have enough d men going into the playoffs.


Can’t have enough decent defenseman* If Tampa can’t have enough defensemen, then they wouldn’t mind trading a 4th round pick for JJ.

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I dont know why are people so mad about this signing. We got our needed depth RHD without giving up any assets. Good signing imo.


I’m not mad. I’m happy that an east contender that my team may have to face in the playoffs just signed a slug. Lol
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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it's not about the money at all... it's about the player. He's really, really not good.

Mike Weber cost the Capitals the series vs Pittsburgh a few years ago after Washington acquired him at the deadline from BUF. WSH fans said it was a good move because it was so cheap, BUF fans said just wait till you watch him play. This feels so eerily similar to what could happen to Tampa... could absolutely see Bogosian blowing it for them
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:20 a.m.
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I’m not mad. I’m happy that an east contender that my team may have to face in the playoffs just signed a slug. Lol


Do you understand that he is there just as an insurance? He wont be playing if all of our Dmen are healthy.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Do you understand that he is there just as an insurance? He wont be playing if all of our Dmen are healthy.


Yeah cause teams usually make it through the playoffs without injuries lol
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.
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Yeah cause teams usually make it through the playoffs without injuries lol


Jeez u r dumb
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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Jeez u r dumb


It’s ok if you’re dumb 👍. Don’t be too upset about it
Feb. 25, 2020 at 3:21 a.m.
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Yeah he is not the best pickup, but looks like that's the best our GM could do. We have to live with it... I don't expect any good performance by him in the playoffs... I expect multiple mistakes , so i hope he surprises me... For now if Buffalo fans saying he is bad: I believe them... Maybe on 3rd pairing D he will be not the worst vs other teams bottom lines , thats all we can hope...
Feb. 25, 2020 at 3:46 a.m.
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Yeah he is not the best pickup, but looks like that's the best our GM could do. We have to live with it... I don't expect any good performance by him in the playoffs... I expect multiple mistakes , so i hope he surprises me... For now if Buffalo fans saying he is bad: I believe them... Maybe on 3rd pairing D he will be not the worst vs other teams bottom lines , thats all we can hope...


But is it the best he could do? I mean he had a 1st which he gave up for Goodrow. Gustafson wasn’t the greatest but only cost a 3rd, cheaper than bogo cap wise, and much better offensively.
Feb. 25, 2020 at 3:58 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 25, 2020 at 4:09 a.m.
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But is it the best he could do? I mean he had a 1st which he gave up for Goodrow. Gustafson wasn’t the greatest but only cost a 3rd, cheaper than bogo cap wise, and much better offensively.


Don't tell me dude, i'm really mad at him...(the Vasi contract almost 10 mill $ extension was nothing compared to this)
I wrote long posts about our GM and his lack of aquiring D-mens in this last 10 days in other threads...
It's painful... Now we have to rely on Rutta. Who chicago fans said are horrible.
Same with Schenn, and unfortunately, Coburn's contract is an albatross now...
Praying that Hedman will be injury free whole playoffs...

Our D-core in shambles because of injuries(like last years playoffs) and yes, that's the best he could do other than the panic move to get Goodrow...
I don't get it and probably i will never will understand this trade. I don't think anyone though we needed another forward... We had Verheaghe playing well + Stephens... If injury, we could rely on Joseph...
Yes if 10 injuries, then we were in trouble on the forward front, but the season is done anyways at that point---> check Columbus

Couple years ago we got JT miller + McDonagh in a package, that was so sweet, i wanted something similar.

from San Jose Sharks :
Like Goodrow + Thornton + Dillon in a package for a 1st+ 2nd+prospect

from Anaheim Ducks :
Grant + Manson in a package for like 2x1st round picks + 1 prospect etc...(if Manson if super expensive)

from Ottawa Senators :
Ennis+Namestnikov+Borowiecki in a package deal for a 1st

Gustaffson/Dillon/Demelo all good options you are right, he missed on all of them. Namestnikov for a 3rd round would have been also insane pickup... Colorado got him(my 2nd fav team ) for a lot less... Easy to outbid them... With the way we go allin this year...

I would have rather payed more for a defender, than for any forward after the Coleman trade...
Well that's life, fingers crossed we can still beat your team come playoffs time. 4-3 tampa, my current guess, if i were a betting man.
I'm sure you thinking the same, except opposite results, hahaaa... cheers

At least your gm did the same bad thing(from my POV): trading away a middle6 useful guy Kahun for questionable pieces coming back.
What's your opinion about that trade? Good/bad? Is Kahun done for the year or what?
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Don't tell me dude, i'm really mad at him...(the Vasi contract almost 10 mill $ extension was nothing compared to this)
I wrote long posts about our GM and his lack of aquiring D-mens in this last 10 days in other threads...
It's painful... Now we have to rely on Rutta. Who chicago fans said are horrible.
Same with Schenn, and unfortunately, Coburn's contract is an albatross now...
Praying that Hedman will be injury free whole playoffs...

Our D-core in shambles because of injuries(like last years playoffs) and yes, that's the best he could do other than the panic move to get Goodrow...
I don't get it and probably i will never will understand this trade. I don't think anyone though we needed another forward... We had Verheaghe playing well + Stephens... If injury, we could rely on Joseph...
Yes if 10 injuries, then we were in trouble on the forward front, but the season is done anyways at that point---> check Columbus

Couple years ago we got JT miller + McDonagh in a package, that was so sweet, i wanted something similar.

from San Jose Sharks :
Like Goodrow + Thornton + Dillon in a package for a 1st+ 2nd+prospect

from Anaheim Ducks :
Grant + Manson in a package for like 2x1st round picks + 1 prospect etc...(if Manson if super expensive)

from Ottawa Senators :
Ennis+Namestnikov+Borowiecki in a package deal for a 1st

Gustaffson/Dillon/Demelo all good options you are right, he missed on all of them. Namestnikov for a 3rd round would have been also insane pickup... Colorado got him(my 2nd fav team ) for a lot less... Easy to outbid them... With the way we go allin this year...

I would have rather payed more for a defender, than for any forward after the Coleman trade...
Well that's life, fingers crossed we can still beat your team come playoffs time. 4-3 tampa, my current guess, if i were a betting man.
I'm sure you thinking the same, except opposite results, hahaaa... cheers

At least your gm did the same bad thing(from my POV): trading away a middle6 useful guy Kahun for questionable pieces coming back.
What's your opinion about that trade? Good/bad? Is Kahun done for the year or what?


Ughhh don’t remind me that my gm made that trade. Everyone is saying it was cause Kahun was pricing himself out. I keep telling people that he is an RFA and that bridge can be crossed in the offseason. The guy was on fire on the second line before he got concussed. Going for a cup run, you don’t trade a 2nd liner for two guys that were healthy scratches at points on buffalo 😂. I don’t see Rodrigues even being in the top 12 when ZAR gets back (provided no more injuries). I can’t see Sheary being in it if Bjugstad ever gets back either. Seemed like the Panarin for Saad trade except with lesser players lol.
Feb. 26, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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Ughhh don’t remind me that my gm made that trade. Everyone is saying it was cause Kahun was pricing himself out. I keep telling people that he is an RFA and that bridge can be crossed in the offseason. The guy was on fire on the second line before he got concussed. Going for a cup run, you don’t trade a 2nd liner for two guys that were healthy scratches at points on buffalo 😂. I don’t see Rodrigues even being in the top 12 when ZAR gets back (provided no more injuries). I can’t see Sheary being in it if Bjugstad ever gets back either. Seemed like the Panarin for Saad trade except with lesser players lol.


Imagine Pittsburgh Penguins with Panarin right now! I would be scared to death hahaalaugh
NYR & him on fire this year. And he was insane vs us last year in playoffs round1 as well. I don't think Coleman+Goodrow on same level, so i don't think we win the cup, but we'll see.
Bookies says right now: We have 1 in 9 chance to win... At least it's better than the deafult 1 in 16...
This Bogosian "kid" doesn't look too good based on the first match Vs Toronto Maple Leafs
We should've went for Vatanen when we traded for Coleman... That wouldn't have been hard to negotiate based on what we gave up ( huge overpayment). They didn't get him too much value afaik...

At least the advanced stats say: we only give up like 5 high danger scoring chances with Bogosian in the 3rd pair in the whole match. Result: allowed 4 goals... Unlucky match... But at least we are one step further from the president's trophy hahaha. Looks like a curse. Boston Bruins doing as well their best not to win it hahahaaa. All the top teams losing last few games in east. It's so funny. Just avoid that curse at all costs LUL
 
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