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(CAR/NJD) - Kuokkanen, Claesson for Vatanen

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Feb 24, 2020 at 5:33
#1
Trade confirmed: Carolina Hurricanes - New Jersey Devils
Trade Details
Carolina Hurricanes Acquire:
Carolina Hurricanes
Sami Vatanen ($2,437,500 retained - 50%)
New Jersey Devils Acquire:
New Jersey Devils
2020 conditional 3rd round pick* (CAR - #84 - Nico Daws)
*Conditions: New Jersey receives a 2020 4th round pick if Vatanen plays in 5 regular-season games this season. The pick upgrades to a 2020 3rd round pick if Vatanen plays in 12 regular-season games this season, or if Carolina makes the playoffs and he plays in 70% of their playoff games.


Updated conditions (The NHL revised the conditions due to the 2020 COVID shortened season), the conditions are now as follows:

NJD receives:

a) 2020 3rd round pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in 70% or more of CAR’s playoff games (excluding play-in games)

b) 2020 4th round pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in at least 2 games against NYR
3. Vatanen plays in less than 70% of CAR’s playoff games

c) No pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in less than 2 games against NYR
3. Vatanen plays in less than 70% of CAR's playoff games

d) 2020 or 2021 4th round pick if:
1. CAR loses to NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in at least 2 games against NYR

e) No pick if:
1. CAR loses to NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in less than 2 games against NYR

Result: New Jersey receives a 2020 3rd round pick.

Feb 24, 2020 at 5:36
#2
AwesomeMatthews
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If Vatanen resigns in Carolina and is healthy next year they could potentially have the greatest defensive core in history of the NHL.
Feb 24, 2020 at 5:42
#3
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Wow, they didn't even get a second,

Koukkanen is solid but this is a steal.
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Feb 24, 2020 at 5:43
#4
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Quoting: Shifttee
Wow, they didn't even get a second,

Koukkanen is solid but this is a steal.


and the rangers got the 1st...allegedly
Feb 24, 2020 at 6:11
#5
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
If Vatanen resigns in Carolina and is healthy next year they could potentially have the greatest defensive core in history of the NHL.


Haha. Let's not get carried away now. DET and NJD in the 90's.
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Feb 24, 2020 at 6:12
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Quoting: Hischier4Captain
and the rangers got the 1st...allegedly


Vatanen has been hurt lately and his value has dropped. This trade is def. a disappointment as a Devils fan.
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Feb 24, 2020 at 9:37
#7
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
If Vatanen resigns in Carolina and is healthy next year they could potentially have the greatest defensive core in history of the NHL.


Just no. The history of the NHL?

Check out some of those Detroit teams in the late 90s and 2000s.

Even Nashville more recently.
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Feb 24, 2020 at 9:38
#8
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I am a big Kuokkanen fan. I think Jersey did very well
Feb 24, 2020 at 11:55
#9
Retired V2 V3 GM
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What a cheap price to pay! Big win for Carolina and wow do they look great for playoffs!! They could've probably gotten a goalie tho. Craig Anderson would've been a good fit.
Feb 25, 2020 at 10:11
#10
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Sami Vatanen for two good prospects and potentially a third? I do not see how people are saying that Carolina won this trade when Vatanen is a rental. This Devils got the edge on this deal.

Let's keep in mind that Vatanen is on IR and that there is no return date for the defender.
Mar 27, 2020 at 10:07
#11
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Quoting: al815
Sami Vatanen for two good prospects and potentially a third? I do not see how people are saying that Carolina won this trade when Vatanen is a rental. This Devils got the edge on this deal.

Let's keep in mind that Vatanen is on IR and that there is no return date for the defender.


Well i mean Kuokkanen is the only prospect here and he's going to be a mid to top 6 guy, Claesson is 100% not a prospect the guys 27 has 150ish gp and 28 points. Yeah and there's also no return date for the nhl... lets hope its within the next 8 months
Mar 27, 2020 at 12:27
#12
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Quoting: Goavs141
Well i mean Kuokkanen is the only prospect here and he's going to be a mid to top 6 guy, Claesson is 100% not a prospect the guys 27 has 150ish gp and 28 points. Yeah and there's also no return date for the nhl... lets hope its within the next 8 months


What makes you think he will be a mid to top 6 player? He hasn't proven he even belongs in the NHL at this point.
Mar 27, 2020 at 1:25
#13
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Quoting: HabsForEver
What makes you think he will be a mid to top 6 player? He hasn't proven he even belongs in the NHL at this point.


I mean he's only 21 and there have been plenty of good players that didn't make the league until they were 24+. That and he put up good numbers in the AHL
Aug 10, 2020 at 8:33
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*Conditions: New Jersey receives a 2020 4th round pick if Vatanen plays in 5 regular-season games this season. The pick upgrades to a 2020 3rd round pick if Vatanen plays in 12 regular-season games this season, or if Carolina makes the playoffs and he plays in 70% of their playoff games.


Updated conditions (The NHL revised the conditions due to the 2020 COVID shortened season), the conditions are now as follows:

NJD receives:

a) 2020 3rd round pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in 70% or more of CAR’s playoff games (excluding play-in games)

b) 2020 4th round pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in at least 2 games against NYR
3. Vatanen plays in less than 70% of CAR’s playoff games

c) No pick if:
1. CAR beats NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in less than 2 games against NYR
3. Vatanen plays in less than 70% of CAR's playoff games

d) 2020 or 2021 4th round pick if:
1. CAR loses to NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in at least 2 games against NYR

e) No pick if:
1. CAR loses to NYR in the 2020 play-in
2. Vatanen plays in less than 2 games against NYR

Sum: $0
Change: -$2,437,500
 
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