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LEAFS PULL OFF TRADE WITH HAWKS AFTER PLAYOFFS

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Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2020
Published: Feb. 24, 2020
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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I don’t see the point in this for Chicago
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:14 p.m.
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I don't think the good Nylander is going to help the **** Nylander get any better, so probably doesn't help Chicago here...
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:15 p.m.
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Thats a big L for Chicago
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.
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I don't think the good Nylander is going to help the **** Nylander get any better, so probably doesn't help Chicago here...


There is no **** Nylander. Fight me.
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
There is no **** Nylander. Fight me.


Henri says hi
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Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
There is no **** Nylander. Fight me.


Normally the joke account is funny. It ain't funny today, man.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JackBurton
Normally the joke account is funny. It ain't funny today, man.


That doesn’t mean I can’t call bullsh*t when I see it.

I meant what I said. There’s no **** Nylander.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Krueger_Pharmaceuticals
Henri says hi

With his *Checks notes* 15 points, -4, on a non playoff team just like Chicago? Geez, I’m glad he noticed us!

I mean seriously, Buffalo has one of the lesser defenses in the NHL what are you on about.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
With his *Checks notes* 15 points, -4, on a non playoff team just like Chicago? Geez, I’m glad he noticed us!

I mean seriously, Buffalo has one of the lesser defenses in the NHL what are you on about.


He's playing great and our defense has been much improved. Tell Alex we say hi
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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He's playing great and our defense has been much improved. Tell Alex we say hi


He’s been okay, even good in stretches. He needs to do some training in the offseason and he will be an excellent forward.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
He’s been okay, even good in stretches. He needs to do some training in the offseason and he will be an excellent forward.


Good luck with that
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
He’s been okay, even good in stretches. He needs to do some training in the offseason and he will be an excellent forward.


Okay, well, now you are clearly as delusional as the real Stan...

You were wrong when you said what you said. He is a **** Nylander. He doesn't have what his brother has. If you can't see that, I'm sorry you lack a clarity of vision to judge prospects as bad as the real Stan does.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:47 p.m.
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Good luck with that


Good luck trying to make the playoffs during this decade.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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Okay, well, now you are clearly as delusional as the real Stan...

You were wrong when you said what you said. He is a **** Nylander. He doesn't have what his brother has. If you can't see that, I'm sorry you lack a clarity of vision to judge prospects as bad as the real Stan does.


I love to say it, so I will, Alex Nylander isn’t going anywhere and no amount of bit*hing from the media or their brainwashed fans are going to change that. I’d suggest taking a closer look at Nylander on the 4th line, been much better. He’s been mismanaged his entire career (including us) he’s developing nicely and will be top 6 ready next year.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
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I love to say it, so I will, Alex Nylander isn’t going anywhere and no amount of bit*hing from the media or their brainwashed fans are going to change that. I’d suggest taking a closer look at Nylander on the 4th line, been much better. He’s been mismanaged his entire career (including us) he’s developing nicely and will be top 6 ready next year.


Him being much better on the 4th line somehow adds up to your assessment that he's "developing nicely" and "will be top 6 ready next year"? In what rickety, dumpy ass, rotted wood station does this crap-logic train crash into?

Take a lap, dude. Even YOU are somehow outdoing yourself.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:07 p.m.
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Him being much better on the 4th line somehow adds up to your assessment that he's "developing nicely" and "will be top 6 ready next year"? In what rickety, dumpy ass, rotted wood station does this crap-logic train crash into?

Take a lap, dude. Even YOU are somehow outdoing yourself.



He is learning how to play a two way game, and is fighting every night to be in the lineup. He has the skills, and is putting them together with work ethic and consistency now.


If anything he has been inoffensive with his play this year, he’s still young and the hawks have the luxury of letting him develop how he is.


If you cool off on the hate for a couple games and watch him play you would see that he is alright.


It doesn’t really matter to me, keep hating him, it’ll just make it all the sweeter when he breaks out.
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:08 p.m.
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Good luck trying to make the playoffs during this decade.


Thanks. Your sincerity overwhelms me
Feb. 24, 2020 at 11:13 p.m.
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Thanks. Your sincerity overwhelms me


It’s gotta happen eventually. (Probably you before us)

Anyways, in summary we both suck pce
Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:05 a.m.
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Am I the only Hawks fan that thinks this is decent?
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:17 a.m.
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Am I the only Hawks fan that thinks this is decent?


I was working on this deal quite late last night as I live on Westcoast of Canada with ChiHawak to help out both teams and was hoping to get some real objective feedback on the trade from some diehard Hawk fans and all I get is some sidetract debate about Alex Nylander who was not even in the trade. What do you guys ie @Stan_Bowman, @JackBurton, @Krueger_Pharmaceuticals think of the actual hockey trade in this post. @ChiHawk
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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I was working on this deal quite late last night as I live on Westcoast of Canada with ChiHawak to help out both teams and was hoping to get some real objective feedback on the trade from some diehard Hawk fans and all I get is some sidetract debate about Alex Nylander who was not even in the trade. What do you guys ie @Stan_Bowman, @JackBurton, @Krueger_Pharmaceuticals think of the actual hockey trade in this post. @ChiHawk


I don’t think it’s a great idea for the hawks to trade Strome and DeBrincat during a down year for the organization (I think the only good thing this year are the rookies, Dach, Boqvist, Kubalik, and only Kubalik is having a “Good Year”)

This move just feels like a short sighted, Win soon, move and I don’t think the Blackhawks are in that position anymore.

If you take out my player bias, perhaps it’s a fair trade, but I don’t think it makes sense for the Blackhawks and I’m not sure what this does for the leafs... do they really need more scoring?
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
He is learning how to play a two way game, and is fighting every night to be in the lineup. He has the skills, and is putting them together with work ethic and consistency now.


If anything he has been inoffensive with his play this year, he’s still young and the hawks have the luxury of letting him develop how he is.


If you cool off on the hate for a couple games and watch him play you would see that he is alright.


It doesn’t really matter to me, keep hating him, it’ll just make it all the sweeter when he breaks out.


Here's the thing, I don't hate him at all. I hope he stops being ****. Doesn't change the fact that he is **** currently. But I would love it if you could throw this in my face next season because somehow he turns a corner into a stud. I don't see it ever happening, but it would be to the team's benefit so I would happily have it tossed right back at me in such a manner. Let's see how it shakes out.
Feb. 25, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLSage
I was working on this deal quite late last night as I live on Westcoast of Canada with ChiHawak to help out both teams and was hoping to get some real objective feedback on the trade from some diehard Hawk fans and all I get is some sidetract debate about Alex Nylander who was not even in the trade. What do you guys ie @Stan_Bowman, @JackBurton, @Krueger_Pharmaceuticals think of the actual hockey trade in this post. @ChiHawk


Is it decent? Maybe. Is it a good idea? No, not in my eyes. Yeah, Willy Nylander is great and puts up a lot of points. But how does he do outside of Toronto's shooting gallery style of play? I don't know that he'd look as good in Chicago. Also, there are questions about commitment to playing hard when it comes to him. To be fair, that may be 100% generated by Toronto's garbage ass media, but it is out there. Kap, eh, I'm undecided on how I feel about him.

Now, what does it say about the Hawks that they cast off 12 & 17 before their pay increases happen, just because they are having down seasons? It is a really bad look for Chicago. Plus, the Hawks are **** this year, it is a collective downcast in points, for 88, for 19, etc (only 8 is putting up great #s). The Cat is fearless, I love him. How often is he mixing it up with players several inches taller than him? Strome, yeah I can't tell if he's dumber than a box of rocks, or sort of unmotivated at times, but he always looks like his brain is halfway out the side of his ear... But that doesn't mean I want to give up on him. I absolutely DO NOT want smokin' Nick Schmaltz to win this round.

So yeah, overall, I want to keep our boys if the offer is just Willy and Kap, and no one is going to make a better offer anyway.
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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Is it decent? Maybe. Is it a good idea? No, not in my eyes. Yeah, Willy Nylander is great and puts up a lot of points. But how does he do outside of Toronto's shooting gallery style of play? I don't know that he'd look as good in Chicago. Also, there are questions about commitment to playing hard when it comes to him. To be fair, that may be 100% generated by Toronto's garbage ass media, but it is out there. Kap, eh, I'm undecided on how I feel about him.

Now, what does it say about the Hawks that they cast off 12 & 17 before their pay increases happen, just because they are having down seasons? It is a really bad look for Chicago. Plus, the Hawks are **** this year, it is a collective downcast in points, for 88, for 19, etc (only 8 is putting up great #s). The Cat is fearless, I love him. How often is he mixing it up with players several inches taller than him? Strome, yeah I can't tell if he's dumber than a box of rocks, or sort of unmotivated at times, but he always looks like his brain is halfway out the side of his ear... But that doesn't mean I want to give up on him. I absolutely DO NOT want smokin' Nick Schmaltz to win this round.

So yeah, overall, I want to keep our boys if the offer is just Willy and Kap, and no one is going to make a better offer anyway.


I'm bias against Strome especially with the emergence of Dach; so that's what the tips the scales for me. I think the Hawks need a dynamic winger like Nylander, but agree I'm mixed on Kap...love his speed for sure
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Feb. 25, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.
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I'm bias against Strome especially with the emergence of Dach; so that's what the tips the scales for me. I think the Hawks need a dynamic winger like Nylander, but agree I'm mixed on Kap...love his speed for sure


I get this, but I don't think Dach should be thrust into a 2C role with the assumption that we can just eliminate the services of Strome because of it. Dach may need a little more time to continue his upward trajectory, and maybe 3C behind Strome is the right place for now. I think if you're Stan, you give Strome a 2-3 year bridge, see how he does, and give Dach the chance to take his job. Then when the time comes, you can figure out what to do with Strome.

The problem with the front office loving to do this "but it's a great story" crap they pull with every conceivable inch of this "one goal" club, is that when you go down that road, it is REALLY a bad sign to backtrack on it. "We're re-uniting OHL buddies Cat and Strome who made a ton of points together! It'll be keen!" But when the club has a down year, and its forwards do as well, you can't just launch Strome into orbit like that "feel good" story never existed. Other players think "****, I don't want to go to that team..." and your free agency issues become tougher (we've seen that). So to me, you have to stay the course with the pair of them a bit longer and see how it turns out.
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