Love the staal trade and ok with the Ritchie swap but he should be a replacement for Clifford instead of the 3rd line wing. Kings also get a second round pick for Clifford if the leafs resign him so they should just bring up korshkov instead. Engvall-staal-kapanen 3rd line would be nasty

A more realistic package for Manson is johnsson + liljegren. Leafs will have space to re-sign dermott if they move liljegren

Boston laughs at us for the Ritchie trade.

Manson starts with a 1st from Toronto, or Nylander.
Otherwise let's just hang up the phone... - the ducks GM says

Keyword:Starts.... u go from there... before some xpert here says Nylander is 2 times more valuable, than that defender...

Good luck getting him for 2nd's... He is not a rental...
Johnsson+Liljegren LUL Those are not main pieces, don't overvalue your low salary/rookie'ish players... If he is on the trade block ever... bidding war will start for him... almost whole league wants a solid RHD for a "capfriendly" contract. Next GM in 1 hour gives a better offer than that... and then all others follows...
Coleman trade was Top prospect + 1st and everybody on this site think Coleman = sux...

Zucker trade look it up... Solid NHL player(whatever bad form Galch played in Pens jersey, before that, he was still a good goalscorer, like 0.5 point/game = good) + solid prospect(not mediocre) + 1st round pick
Copy the Zucker trade, and go from there... ~around

IMO Manson > Zucker valuewise but you can disagree... But it's fair to say they are quite even... Top2 D vs Top6 F

As a bruins fan I would take that

Really? You guys were really tired of Heinen eh? He's a half a point per game c. A 3rd and a b minus prospect is all you wanted?

Manson is not a top 2 d and is signed for one year. He has value but not Nylander plus. Also a guy Lilly Liljegren is worth more than a Leafs first...

So much over exaggerating when you talk. 😂

I have almost no interest in acquiring Manson.

Boston would get an NHL player for Ritchie rather than....nothing. Gee, a big overpayment for one year of Staal. This fascination for Manson is so silly. He certainly isn't worth any more than what you offered. But trading a Dman in this case Dermott just to get another Dman Manson just isn't that productive.

GMs always overpay at deadline. So Zucker and Coleman although good player, great players, were deadline "scrambles". I'm not saying these will happen, probably more hopes, but they are not out of reality. Great comments though!

Well, first off, heinen isn’t a center. Like, just not at all. I have no idea why cap friendly lists him as such. He hasn’t played center in 6 years.

I wasn’t sick of him. I think the trade was horrible.

Haha fair enough then.

As a non Boston fan I saw him listed at centre often enough on various sources and knew that the 3c has been a bit of a nebulous spot for Boston and just trusted it.

Just stating easy facts for n00bs , when i see out of the world trades...


If you think Manson will get traded, you have to expect a deep return. Otherwise, just keeping him.
He is a top2D, he plays amazing anytime i see him play, he is still quite young(in defenders's age) , he kills PK's. He is physical.
He had a little slump earlier this year. His value went down, Just like Josh Anderson from .
But guess what. When someone's value is down. You still can't aquire a solid (let's just say, he is weaker, than i think by a lot ) Top3D for peanuts. Or a solid middle6 forward.
He has still 2 more full years left at a pretty nice ~ around 4 million $ caphit. Just what Tampa or Toronto would've needed, if he was available to trade. Hint: he wasn't.

Toronto has no assets to aquire Manson. Johnsson is a 3rd liner, Bracco is AHL level player right now(possibly top9 player future). Dermott is Top6D.
Manson is not like Muzzin, who only worth a 1st, who is aging and already regressing.(more injuries coming in the next 4 years + perfromance declining).
When you want to aquire a prime age top3D(25-30 years), you have to pay a lot.
If you disagree, then show me your ACGM's topics, where you aquire from any team to any team a top Defender who is close to his prime.
Then we'll see, if those players who you just showcased---> will stay or leave in the next few years. Let me guess, you won't do it, because it won't happen. Just like suggestions in these topics.

Let me clarify one more time. When a player has a lot of term left and not on trade block. Price is insanely high, unless that said player on trade block and having career worst year and hopeless future.(and over 30)
Even when Ristolainen had a -40 careeer down year, his value was the lowest ever. He still wouldn't get traded... 1 year later, he still didn't... In this case, Ristolainen = Manson. Teams not making trades just for the sake of it with high caliber players. Unless they have a reason. To help Toronto/insert any other team win the Stanley-Cup is not a reason for Anaheim to trade him.
Result = he stays, until Anaheim get's a crazy offer, which they can't refuse. I help you Johnson + Liljegren is a bad offer. If i could rate it: 1/10. Johnsson(3rd liner) + Dermott(top6 D on most teams) + 2nd round pick(late) = below mediocre offer. That's why i said, it starts with a first round pick ( again probably late) or Nylander ( solid top 6 player). Then go from there. Really easy stuff. For 3 weak pieces, you cannot aquire strong players, who are not on trade block. If Johnsson will be on trade block with dermott in couple of months. Their value = even lower...

Let's examine Dumba. Uhh, everybody imagined him getting traded, because he had a bad year. Guess what: Toronto offered Johnson/Kap + other medicore pieces.
said: no thanks. Keep your Barrie forever, together with Johnsson/Kapanen/Bracco.

I expect Manson to be moved at 2020/2021 trade deadline for a steep package, like Coleman/Zucker 's return. 1st round + prospect + (player).
Or 2021/2022 TDL for a cheaper pricetag for a pure rental for 25 games --> like 2nd round + mediocre prospect. Or ~ 2nd round+3rd round. If bidding war, maybe even more. Hard to predict that far into the future.

TLDR: Manson stays in Anaheim for a while.... unless a super high offer comes in by any team. And it probably won't be Toronto...(they don't have the pieces), except if they are willing to give up high quality assets...

tl;dr

It was not for you, sorry... I just replied to you because u replied to me... haha...
it was for the noobs who think they will get Manson for dirt cheap...

Now it looks like Manson's value went up because of the amazing contract value(low cap hit)... and cap will be low for next years... so it's even more harder to trade for him for peanuts...

TLDR was: Manson is expensive like hell for any future trade partner. Someone said other players value were high because of trade deadline... well guess what without trade deadline Coleman would be stayed in his old team... Same with Manson... That point is ridicoulus to bring up... If there are bidding wars... it will be for Manson without trade deadline as well, if he gets shopped, but hint again : He won't get shopped around...