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Created by: Arom5477

Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 28, 2020

Published: Feb. 28, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Here's how I went about these possibilities:

1.) The trade MUST be with a Western Conference team. GMJR has typically only made bigger trades with the West (Brassard/McCann-Bjugstad deals aside).
2.) The return must include some combination of the following:
a.) A Prospect (1-2 years away) + Bottom Six player (with no real top 6 potential) + 1st round pick
b.) NHL Ready prospect + 1st round pick
c.) NHL Middle Six forward + 2nd round pick + PIT Cap Relief
d.) Top 6 forward + 2nd round pick
3.) Team must have a true need for a franchise goalie.

***I will try my best to do a a-d.) case for each prospective team***

Trades

PIT

Jakob Pelletier
Sam Bennett
1st

CGY

Matt Murray

PIT

Alexander Yelesin
1st

CGY

Matt Murray

PIT

Andrew Mangiapane
2nd round pick

CGY

Matt Murray
Jack Johnson

PIT

John Quenneville
Drake Caggiula
1st

CHI

Matt Murray

PIT

Dylan Sikura
1st

CHI

Matt Murray

PIT

Brandon Saad
2nd
2nd

CHI

Matt Murray
Nick Bjugstad

PIT

Alex DeBrincat
2nd

CHI

Matt Murray

PIT

Vladislav Kaminev
Matt Calvert
1st

COL

Matt Murray

PIT

Connor Timmons
1st
3rd

COL

Matt Murray

10.

PIT

Joonas Donskoi
2nd

COL

Matt Murray
Jack Johnson or Nick Bjugstad

11.

PIT

Luke Kunin
Marcus Foligno
1st

MIN

Matt Murray

12.

PIT

Matthew Boldy
1st

MIN

Matt Murray

13.

PIT

Marcus Foligno
2nd round pick

MIN

Matt Murray
Jack Johnson or Nick Bjugstad

14.

PIT

Kevin Fiala
2nd

MIN

Matt Murray

15.

PIT

Lukas Radil
Marcus Sorensen
1st

SJS

Matt Murray

16.

PIT

Johnathon Dahlen
1st

SJS

Matt Murray

17.

PIT

Kevin Leblanc
2nd round pick

SJS

Matt Murray
Nick Bjugstad or Jack Johnson

18.

PIT

Timo Meier or Tomas Hertl
2nd

SJS

Matt Murray

Buried

Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$81,500,000	$63,325,175	$0	$850,000	$18,174,825

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 3
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1	Trotman, Zach $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD UFA - 5

Feb. 28, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.

BCAPP

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So I read your description and briefly checked some of the trades. You vastly overrate what a good but not superstar starting goalie is likely to get on the trade market.

Likely a late first and depth prospect max

Feb. 28, 2020 at 3:53 p.m.

BCAPP

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You are not getting a guy like Meir/Hertl/DeBrincat, let alone having them add to the package.

You may trade Murray as part of a package for one of those guys though.

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.

Petrock83

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Murray for Caggiula and a 2nd.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.

hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: Petrock83

Murray for Caggiula and a 2nd.

Pittsburgh may let CHI borrow Murray for 1 game with that offer

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.

coga16

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2 thing...Murray to the Avs is not a possibility, they arent looking for a goalie and the second, all those trade proposals with them, they are all easy flat out No from them

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.

Pensfan89

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Quoting: BCAPP

You are not getting a guy like Meir/Hertl/DeBrincat, let alone having them add to the package.

You may trade Murray as part of a package for one of those guys though.

Agreed. ADB, Hertl, or Meier would require Kings ransoms alone. Like Murray, 1st, and prospect

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.

EGM

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Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.

Arom5477

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Quoting: EGM

Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?

He has no real place in the lineup anymore.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:39 p.m.

papishark

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All of these are laughable. Sharks give you Labanc and a second for Murray and terrible cap dumps? Id only drop a second straight up for him

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:39 p.m.

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EGM

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Quoting: Arom5477

He has no real place in the lineup anymore.

Would definitely prefer pens try to trade Hornqvist if they could, they would have to give up a lot more to move him but it would make a lot more sense.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.

#11

Treize131

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Flames probably do the Yelesin+1st in a heartbeat.

Though it would all depend on the kind of contract/role Murray is looking for from his next contract. Here in YYC he'd definitely be part of a 1/1A goalie tandem with Rittich.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.

#12

SlickWilly

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Philipp Grubauer who was in largely the same position, with brooks orpik (a cap dump similar to Bjugstad) went to the Avs for a 2nd. You arent getting Saad and 2 seconds for the same thing but a lesser goalie

Feb. 28, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Thanks needed a good laugh

You're totally delusional if you honestly think that Matt Murrays gets any of those returns.

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.

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justaBoss

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Funny how you value Donskoi at the same level as Debrincat based on the returns...

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:09 p.m.

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JayTea

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Quoting: BurgerBoss

Funny how you value Donskoi at the same level as Debrincat based on the returns...

It's worse. Donskoi has a cap dump included along with Murray, so he values Donskoi above Debrincat.

Or he actually thinks Jack Johnson adds value, which is somehow funnier than all these trades.

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.

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justaBoss

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Quoting: JayTea

It's worse. Donskoi has a cap dump included along with Murray, so he values Donskoi above Debrincat.

Or he actually thinks Jack Johnson adds value, which is somehow funnier than all these trades.

Lmao

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: SlickWilly

His value was suppressed for taking a cap dump with him.

Also Murray is weird to value as he backstopped two cups and now has regressed some...

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:28 p.m.

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UpsideDownQue

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I think youre overvaluing Murray (by a lot)

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.

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JeffW

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Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, and if they were looking to upgrade they'd want an upgrade

Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:41 p.m.

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SlickWilly

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Quoting: BCAPP

His value was suppressed for taking a cap dump with him.

Also Murray is weird to value as he backstopped two cups and now has regressed some...

Yes and Murrays value would be surpressed by taking Bjugstad as well. I wouldnt trade Saad for Murray straight up, and im not adding 2 seconds for bjugstad

Feb. 28, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.

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Sqm918

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Murray to the Sharks or Avalanche seems plausible. Sharks return would likely include Leblanc. Don’t know if Sharks give up much more though. Avs deal likely includes Donskoi or Compher and a pick. Lots of idiotic comments on this though. Just shows how little people know about hockey on this site. Pretty comical honestly.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: SlickWilly

Yes and Murrays value would be surpressed by taking Bjugstad as well. I wouldnt trade Saad for Murray straight up, and im not adding 2 seconds for bjugstad

A starting goalie is way more important than a second line winger.

I though op was exaggerating Murray's worth you are way exaggerating Saad's worth. He's never had more than 53 points. He's a fine player but he's not particularly special

Feb. 28, 2020 at 9:47 p.m.

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Pensfan89

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Quoting: EGM

Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?

No he doesn’t even fit into the top 9 on the pens anymore.

Feb. 28, 2020 at 9:49 p.m.

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Pensfan89

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Quoting: EGM

Would definitely prefer pens try to trade Hornqvist if they could, they would have to give up a lot more to move him but it would make a lot more sense.

No it wouldn’t. Hornqvist has been good this year. To a lot of teams he has value. I don’t think Bjugstad has much value right now due to his injury. Bjugstad needs to comeback in the next few games, have a strong end to the season and a strong playoffs and he could probably get a somewhat decent return in the offseason

Feb. 28, 2020 at 11:03 p.m.

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SlickWilly

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Quoting: BCAPP

yeah and Murray has never carried his own team. Only time they got wins was with fleury as a 1a/1b situation. He isnt even the 1st string on the Pens anymore. Jarry has outperformed him all season and you expect to get a lot in return. Its not gonna happen

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