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Created by: csick
Team: 2020-21 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 28, 2020
Published: Feb. 28, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
CBJ
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (CAR)
2.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$84,000,000$81,025,655$1,367,073$3,687,500$2,974,345
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,375,000$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
UFA - 5
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:40 p.m.
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That Jones trade isn't worth it. The upgrade from PEsce to Jones isn't worth THAT. Gardiner for Miller is also a HUGE downgrade
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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Give me all the hate in the world, I reserve the right to laugh at each and every one of you...
Pesce>Jones.
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:45 p.m.
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Pesce>Jones.


Literally this
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 6:49 p.m.
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Literally this


Pesce doesn’t have enough for offence for this to be true tbh
Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.
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Pesce doesn’t have enough for offence for this to be true tbh


He does tbh
Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.
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He does tbh


What numbers are you looking at? He's never reached 30 points or 8 goals in a single season. That's not much offence.
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
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Just as Slavin is the perfect partner for Hamilton and his defensive deficiencies (which aren't that bad), Pesce is the perfect partner for Skjei and his defensive deficiencies (which are). Jones may be all-star quality, but on this team, he's overkill. Better for the Hurricanes to keep all of those assets; in fact, I would contend that Jones for Pesce, Suzuki and ONE first is a trade Carolina shouldn't make.
Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Literally this


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Pesce>Jones.


Jones doesn't have good xGAR numbers at all. Hes tied with Justin Holl this season. He isnt that great and he has always played with good partners and had his numbers go way up because he was with panarin. Hes so overrated
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
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That's way to much for a downgrade in Jones and jones is in a worse contract. Spending that much on a goalie is bad, especially now that we know goalies arent important
Feb. 28, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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That's way to much for a downgrade in Jones and jones is in a worse contract. Spending that much on a goalie is bad, especially now that we know goalies arent important


6M for a Vezina contender is a bargain.
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 8:24 p.m.
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6M for a Vezina contender is a bargain.


Goalies arent that important. They could go out and get someone for 3 million and he will be just as good
Feb. 28, 2020 at 8:56 p.m.
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Jones doesn't have good xGAR numbers at all. Hes tied with Justin Holl this season. He isnt that great and he has always played with good partners and had his numbers go way up because he was with panarin. Hes so overrated


His RAPM is so average as well too
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 10:31 p.m.
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Goalies arent that important. They could go out and get someone for 3 million and he will be just as good


Lol good one
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Feb. 28, 2020 at 10:36 p.m.
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Lol good one


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Feb. 28, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.
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Mrazek makes $3M he’s not even league average. Lehner is a top tier goalie even behind the worst defensive team in the league. They could use a goalie for games like tonight where they don’t score while producing 40+ plus shots. Lehner will steal games Mrazek will lose them.
Feb. 28, 2020 at 11:07 p.m.
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Buffalo passes on Gardiner
Feb. 29, 2020 at 11:50 a.m.
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Mrazek makes $3M he’s not even league average. Lehner is a top tier goalie even behind the worst defensive team in the league. They could use a goalie for games like tonight where they don’t score while producing 40+ plus shots. Lehner will steal games Mrazek will lose them.


Mrazek has been bad. Goaltending is so random and its extremely hard to predict what will happen. Last season mrazek was good but for some reason he hasn't this year. The structure and players infront of him have stayed the same or gotten better. There is absolutely no correlation between cap hit and goals performance. CBJ is doing the same thing. Instead of keeping Bob they kept two guys that people thought would be bad, including me. Its proven that it's way better and way less risky to spend the cap on building a good defensive structure instead of betting on a goalie.

Lehner would be very good in Carolina and that deal is in theory a steal but they could also go out and get guys like they have been getting (the James Reimers of the world) and pay them less then half of what they would be paying lehner and still get 90% of what they would be getting out of lehner.

For teams like Anaheim, Toronto, Chicago and Winnipeg you need to spend lots on goalies to be able to get a good one because they arent able to build a good D core. If you look at teams like Carolina, Columbus, Arizona or the Islanders you see that they can pretty much throw anyone in there and they will do well
 
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