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Trade for Defense

Created by: leafsfan123456
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 2, 2020
Published: Mar. 2, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Orr, Colton
1$700,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. 2020 6th round pick (ANA)
2.
TOR
  1. Gáborík, Marián
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (DAL)
OTT
  1. 2020 7th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Melnyk is cheap
Retained Salary Transactions
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$81,359,783$0$400,000$2,140,217

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Orr, Colton
$700,000$700,000

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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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Caps fan idk why
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You would need to trade a nylander type not spare parts for him.

How about

Manson

For

1st round pick and Liljegren or Sandin
Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:17 p.m.
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Once again Anaheim says no, And blocks Dubas number.
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
You would need to trade a nylander type not spare parts for him.


While this deal doesn't get it done, you absolutely do not trade a Nylander type for him. That's like a smaller scale version of Hall for Larsson
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
You would need to trade a nylander type not spare parts for him.

How about

Manson

For

1st round pick and Liljegren or Sandin


How about a Zamboni driver
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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Don't want Manson.
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
While this deal doesn't get it done, you absolutely do not trade a Nylander type for him. That's like a smaller scale version of Hall for Larsson


Unfortunately hall Larson type trades rarely take place bc of how stupid they are. Capitals took part in a forsberg erat trade. Those types of trades aren’t very common
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
How about a Zamboni driver


Haha how can you argue with that return?
Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Unfortunately hall Larson type trades rarely take place bc of how stupid they are. Capitals took part in a forsberg erat trade. Those types of trades aren’t very common


Now you've confused me. You're saying that those types of deals are stupid, but suggested that they would need to trade a Nylander type for Manson.
Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Now you've confused me. You're saying that those types of deals are stupid, but suggested that they would need to trade a Nylander type for Manson.


Yes. Leafs would need to trade a nylander for Manson making this trade dumb. You can’t get a player like Manson for spare parts so you would need to sell a player that makes an impact on your roster. More than likely nylander. At that price Manson isn’t worth it. You follow?
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Yes. Leafs would need to trade a nylander for Manson making this trade dumb. You can’t get a player like Manson for spare parts so you would need to sell a player that makes an impact on your roster. More than likely nylander. At that price Manson isn’t worth it. You follow?


I get what you're saying now, but very strongly disagree. You can get players like Manson for far less than Nylander. He's a good defensive guy with minimal offensive contributions. Nothing all that special. Demelo was having as good if not better of a season than Manson and it only cost a third. Granted, Demelo is a rental, but in this scenario, Manson only has two years left. As soon as this deadline past, Manson's value took a hit. Ducks should've traded him. Johnsson is 2nd line winger on most teams, and depending on what the left side on D looks like, Dermott can play top 4. This package is far from 'spare parts', it's just not right for the Ducks.
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 6:16 p.m.
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Come on Leafs fans. Yeah. The team needs a RD. But when every post is Manson, Pesce or Dumba - I am concerned about our fan bases ability to think outside the box. I did see a Jones post week. Haven't seen that on a while.

Would love to see something otlriginal and challenge our thought processes
Mar. 2, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
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I didnt hate leaf fans until i started looking at this site.
Mar. 2, 2020 at 7:22 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Once again Anaheim says no, And blocks Dubas number.


Blocking his number won't help. Dubas only communicates via SnapChat or Twitter direct messages.
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 7:49 p.m.
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There's a thing called the cap floor. The Sens have to hit it next year. All these 'Melnyuk is cheap' justified trades to dump salary and get a draft pick are so dumb because they have to spend the money anyway!! Stop it, it's silly

Also keep Nylander, Manson is good but not that good
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Mar. 2, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Once again Anaheim says no, And blocks Dubas number.


Dermott is better and has more upside than Manson so Leafs would hang up on Ducks GM.
Mar. 3, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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Manson for Liljegren plus something to equal out the difference between Manson's current value and Liljegren's potential future upside (but not a first) is a reasonable trade. It's going to take two or three years for Anaheim to build a viable right side behind the blue line, which coincides with Liljegren's maturation. It depends what happens in this year's draft. There are some great RhD prospects in it, from Drysdale to Schneider to Grans to Baron to Niemola to Faber. Maybe the Ducks scouting staff will get smart and pick a right-handed defenseman at every reasonable opportunity. (Obviously, if Drysdale is gone at 5 - 7, they should pick a forward because our offense is frightening, too.)
 
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