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2019 redo

2019 redo

Draft Class: 2019
Created By: exo2769
Published: Mar. 4, 2020 at 3:08 p.m.
ROUND 1TEAMORIGINALPLAYERDETAILS
1Logo of the New Jersey Devils-
2Logo of the New York Rangers-
3Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks-
4Logo of the Colorado AvalancheLogo of the Ottawa Senators
5Logo of the Los Angeles Kings-
6Logo of the Detroit Red Wings-
7Logo of the Buffalo Sabres-
8Logo of the Edmonton Oilers-
9Logo of the Anaheim Ducks-
10Logo of the Vancouver Canucks-
11Logo of the Arizona CoyotesLogo of the Philadelphia Flyers
12Logo of the Minnesota Wild-
13Logo of the Florida Panthers-
14Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersLogo of the Arizona Coyotes
15Logo of the Montreal Canadiens-
16Logo of the Colorado Avalanche-
17Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights-
18Logo of the Dallas Stars-
19Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsLogo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
20Logo of the Winnipeg Jets-
21Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins-
22Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLogo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
23Logo of the New York Islanders-
24Logo of the Nashville Predators-
25Logo of the Washington Capitals-
26Logo of the Calgary Flames-
27Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning-
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28Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes-
29Logo of the Anaheim DucksLogo of the San Jose Sharks
30Logo of the Boston Bruins-
31Logo of the Buffalo SabresLogo of the St. Louis Blues
ROUND 2TEAMORIGINALPLAYERDETAILS
32Logo of the Ottawa Senators-
33Logo of the Los Angeles Kings-
34Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersLogo of the New Jersey Devils
35Logo of the Detroit Red Wings-
36Logo of the Carolina HurricanesLogo of the Buffalo Sabres
37Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsLogo of the New York Rangers
38Logo of the Edmonton Oilers-
39Logo of the Anaheim Ducks-
40Logo of the Vancouver Canucks-
41Logo of the Vegas Golden KnightsLogo of the Philadelphia Flyers
42Logo of the Minnesota Wild-
43Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks-
44Logo of the Carolina HurricanesLogo of the Florida Panthers
45Logo of the Nashville PredatorsLogo of the Arizona Coyotes
46Logo of the Montreal Canadiens-
47Logo of the Colorado Avalanche-
48Logo of the San Jose SharksLogo of the Vegas Golden Knights
49Logo of the New York RangersLogo of the Dallas Stars
50Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLogo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
51Logo of the Winnipeg Jets-
52Logo of the Florida PanthersLogo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
53Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs-
54Logo of the Detroit Red WingsLogo of the New York Islanders
55Logo of the San Jose SharksLogo of the Nashville Predators
56Logo of the Washington Capitals-
57Logo of the New York IslandersLogo of the Calgary Flames
58Logo of the New York RangersLogo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
59Logo of the Minnesota WildLogo of the Carolina Hurricanes
60Logo of the Detroit Red WingsLogo of the San Jose Sharks
61Logo of the New Jersey DevilsLogo of the Boston Bruins
62Logo of the St. Louis Blues-
Mar. 4, 2020 at 6:48 p.m.
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I wanted Bowen at the draft. VERY thankful I'm not a genius. Would have been kicking myself if Bowman drafted Bowen.

You're totally not an AVEs fan...Stick with Newhook.


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Is Bowen better or worse this year.....the undeniable answer is worse. Hard to move him up the list when he's playing worse than last year...and didn't do jack @ WJC. So yeah. This is right. Doesn't mean he can't be successful in the NHL...just means he's taken a clear step back...which is obvious.


bryam has been better the avs are very happy with both there picks if you do a redo again but bryam up higher he is too good for the WHL
Mar. 5, 2020 at 12:17 a.m.
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I wanted Bowen at the draft. VERY thankful I'm not a genius. Would have been kicking myself if Bowman drafted Bowen.

You're totally not an AVEs fan...Stick with Newhook.


Do you scout based off of the stats you can get off of EliteProspects? Because Byram has rounded out his game tremendously, has dealt with nagging injuries and has recently turnt in one of the best offensive stretches by a defenseman the WHL has seen in a while. Yes, Dach has surpassed expectations and Kakko hasn't lived up to them, but Kakko still has more long-term upside. I assume you have Heinola at 9 because he put up 5 points in 8 NHL games before going back to Finland. Did you actually watch those games? Have you actually watched Spencer Knight at BC this year? Or Cam York at Michigan? Or have you seen how incredibly well Soderstrom has been playing for Brynas? Or do you look at a stat sheet and think that will tell you everything you need to know?
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Mar. 5, 2020 at 7:45 a.m.
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Do you scout based off of the stats you can get off of EliteProspects? Because Byram has rounded out his game tremendously, has dealt with nagging injuries and has recently turnt in one of the best offensive stretches by a defenseman the WHL has seen in a while. Yes, Dach has surpassed expectations and Kakko hasn't lived up to them, but Kakko still has more long-term upside. I assume you have Heinola at 9 because he put up 5 points in 8 NHL games before going back to Finland. Did you actually watch those games? Have you actually watched Spencer Knight at BC this year? Or Cam York at Michigan? Or have you seen how incredibly well Soderstrom has been playing for Brynas? Or do you look at a stat sheet and think that will tell you everything you need to know?


Great questions. The short answer is...all of the above, but that's kinda cop out. I get it. AND all of these are clearly subjective. I could have factored in injuries more so than I did. Peytron Krebs is also crushing it, but was injured. That's a fair criticism. The number of spots Ville jumped...I can understand that's questionable. I certainly am factoring in his 8 NHL games. Having played just 1 NHL game would be a plus, but to have success checks off one box...your game translates. If Player A...never played any NHL games it's hard to say their game translates because there's zero proof. AND many players don't pan out.

Specifically, Byram. Yeah I 100% agree he's making a fierce comeback. It's still not the year he had last year. It's also not what COL asked him to go back and do...get better defensively. The Giants are largely the same team...every team has some kind of turnover... I would expect him to step up his game. VAN is 3rd in their division. We'll see what they do in the playoffs. BUT now the comparison comes into play.

It can't just be old draft position is an automatic and now how is each player doing compared to last year. It's 1 factor, but there are too many others. Why shouldn't guys like Zegras jump Byram? He's crushing it @ BU in a league that doesn't have high scoring and crushed it in WJC. What about Mortiz Seider? Jumped into the AHL...and much harder league than the WHL and he's playing great too. So again, it's subjective, but other players drafted near each other means their ceilings are close enough and the league you play in plus your own results matter. It's not that Byram can't be a great NHL player, it's just also respecting that other players can have tremendous years.

Obviously I can't watch every game of every team. I have to go off what I see. Example. I do watch Big Ten hockey. I have the Big Ten Network. The Michigan games I've seen...I can see Beecher has a tremendous impact on the game despite not hitting the scoring sheet that much. He's out there in the final minutes. Same Team...Cam York has more points than Beecher. He's been largely invisible to me. Doesn't mean I saw his best games. Doesn't mean he can't be a great pro either. It's hard to score in the NCAA. But this is what I see. Yeah, Subjective but clearly not just following a stat sheet.

The top 3 all play in the NHL. Regardless of anything else playing in the NHL is far greater than any other league. I don't see KK's ceiling as high anymore. Most of his production comes from the PP which Panarin is on...and obviously with a man advantage. 5V5 is more important to me which is where Dach dominates both Hughes and KK. Quite honestly, the only reason Dach isn't #1 is because when I watch Hughes play. I can see his skating and vision are amazing. If he was on a better team I think he'd be doing better. KK??? The Rangers aren't THAT bad. they're still fighting for a playoff spot.
Mar. 5, 2020 at 12:35 p.m.
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Specifically, Byram. Yeah I 100% agree he's making a fierce comeback. It's still not the year he had last year. It's also not what COL asked him to go back and do...get better defensively. The Giants are largely the same team...every team has some kind of turnover... I would expect him to step up his game. VAN is 3rd in their division. We'll see what they do in the playoffs. BUT now the comparison comes into play.

It can't just be old draft position is an automatic and now how is each player doing compared to last year. It's 1 factor, but there are too many others. Why shouldn't guys like Zegras jump Byram? He's crushing it @ BU in a league that doesn't have high scoring and crushed it in WJC. What about Mortiz Seider? Jumped into the AHL...and much harder league than the WHL and he's playing great too. So again, it's subjective, but other players drafted near each other means their ceilings are close enough and the league you play in plus your own results matter. It's not that Byram can't be a great NHL player, it's just also respecting that other players can have tremendous years.



I can see the argument of taking Seider over Byram in a redraft (18 yr old succeeding in the AHL > 18 yr old succeeding in the WHL), but I have an issue with putting Heinola over Byram. Even though Heinola started the season in WPG, and had a decent WJC, his Liiga year has been pretty unimpressive, one of the reasons why Lukko, while in the playoffs, is kind of toiling in the middle. Now, could just be hitting a wall, he's played in 4 different places this year (NHL, AHL, WJC and Liiga), but Byram has really rounded his game out (much better defensively this year, while still maintaining close to the same scoring pace as in the past) and has become more of a go-to guy for his team.

I believe you can throw Byram, Newhook, and Cozens into the same bucket (3rd tier). My buckets break down as:

1st tier:
Hughes
Dach
Kakko

2nd tier:
Seider
Caufield
Turcotte
Zegras

3rd tier:
Newhook
Bryam
Cozens

I expect all these guys to get a good shot at sticking in the NHL next year (outside the ones that are already there).
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Yeah like Detroit would be taking Zegras over Caufield, Byram or Cozens not even remotely happening after his injury that he sustained.
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Out of curiosity, you say in one of your points that playing NHL games matters. Why then do you have Bjornfot dropping spots? He made the Kings out of camp and is now excelling as one of the best two defensemen in Ontario as an 18 year old (the best this year probably being 27 year old Paul LaDue). He would have more games in the NHL if there wasnt the 9 games played rule, as the Kings are keeping him in ONT to slide his ELC.
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Mar. 7, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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Out of curiosity, you say in one of your points that playing NHL games matters. Why then do you have Bjornfot dropping spots? He made the Kings out of camp and is now excelling as one of the best two defensemen in Ontario as an 18 year old (the best this year probably being 27 year old Paul LaDue). He would have more games in the NHL if there wasnt the 9 games played rule, as the Kings are keeping him in ONT to slide his ELC.


Honestly...Most likely an error on my part.
 
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