Had Matthews born two days earlier

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Created by: TheChief

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2020

Published: Mar. 6, 2020

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Matthews was born in September 17, 1997. The last day of draft picks eligible for 2015 NHL Entry Draft was September 15. Had he born two days earlier, this team would look very different lol.

I'd guess that Matthews would've been picked 3rd (behind McDavid and Eichel), with ARI picking him, therefore leaving Strome as the 4th overall pick in 2015. This would've meant that TOR hadn't picked Marner with that pick.

In this case, 2016 first overall pick would have had to be Laine. So he'd be currently in TOR.

Naturally there would be many other moves including these, but this ain't so serious post really.

Trades

TOR

Schmaltz, Nick

Additional Details:

Schmaltz for Strome trade would've never happened, since ARI never drafted Strome.

Additional Details:

Laine would've been picked instead of Matthews as first overall pick in 2016.

WPG

Marner, Mitchell

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (44%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$52,091,532	$0	$2,875,000	$29,408,468

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Laine, Patrik $4,995,000$4,995,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Strome, Dylan $863,333$863,333 ($2,475,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Clifford, Kyle $800,000$800,000 LW UFA - 1		Malgin, Denis $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3
		Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1
		Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1
		Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
		Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.

SammyT_51

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They would still pick Marner with that pick. Or maybe Arizona would still pick Strome.. you never know!

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.

Jack_

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Quoting: SammyT_51

They would still pick Marner with that pick. Or maybe Arizona would still pick Strome.. you never know!

Arizona would have picked Eichel

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.

justaBoss

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Quoting: Jack_

Arizona would have picked Eichel

I'd say that if BUF had to choose from Eichel or Matthews, they would've chosen Eichel, since Matthews hadn't still played in Europe for a year. I think Eichel would've been ranked higher...

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Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:37 a.m.

Jack_

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Quoting: BurgerBoss

I'd say that if BUF had to choose from Eichel or Matthews, they would've chosen Eichel, since Matthews hadn't still played in Europe for a year. I think Eichel would've been ranked higher...

if matthews had been born 2 days earlier he also would have gone to europe a year earlier. matthews started playing junior hockey a year later because he was younger, if he was two days older they would be on the same path as eichel. he just had to wait an extra year to start

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.

Krueger_Pharmaceuticals

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Eichel was, and is, better than matthews

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Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.

mondo

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Arizona would've picked Matthews and Toronto would've picked Marner. Both are their respective teams hometown guys.

That said, Toronto would've been incredibly different, as the 2016 field wouldn't have had a consensus number one. Early reports had Chychrun and Max Jones behind Matthews, and Mark Hunter was still on the Maple Leafs so Tkachuk and Juolevi could've been options as well. I don't think they would've made the playoffs that season without Matthews and Tavares probably would've re-upped with the Islanders.

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.

vr1995

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Edited Mar. 6, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.

Quoting: Krueger_Pharmaceuticals

Eichel was, and is, better than matthews

dont come at me crying with this matthews plays with better players bs, he has shown that he can play with guys like kapanen and johnsson and still produce. also not matthews fault that jack has to play for one of the worst franchises in the nhl

Mar. 6, 2020 at 11:57 a.m.

vr1995

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Quoting: mondo

leafs needed a centre, i think they would have taken strome at 4, led ohl in scoring that year and stepped up when connor was out with a broken hand

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Mar. 6, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.

mondo

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Quoting: vr1995

leafs needed a centre, i think they would have taken strome at 4, led ohl in scoring that year and stepped up when connor was out with a broken hand

Marner was a London Knight.

Mar. 6, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.

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vr1995

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Edited Mar. 6, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.

Quoting: mondo

Marner was a London Knight.

i get it but still, i think thats what made them choose marner over hanifin, given the choice i think theyw ould have taken strome, leafs were in dire need of a number 1 center and strome fit the bill, big two way center that the leafs needed, marner was the only london kinght he ever drafted so it wasnt like hunter had the only london knights mentality

Mar. 6, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.

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Spanky227

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Quoting: Jack_

I don't think he would've moved to NLA that young. He would've been the youngest player in the draft. Assuming he didnt:
He had a 155 point season in the USHL. Strome had a 129 point season in the OHL.

Because of the bias' that seem to exist (Canada vs US, size) in a lot of teams/scouts it probably would've been like this:
1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Strome
4. Matthews
5. Hanifin
6. Marner

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