Marner Stinks

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Created by: AnalyticsGeek

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 7, 2020

Published: Mar. 7, 2020

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I hate having to criticize my favourite player but this has got to be the worst season in Mitch Marner’s hockey career. Other than a few highlight reel plays, he’s been a total disaster. He just doesn’t look as sharp compared to previous years. Making terrible decisions with the puck as he’s always trying to make an extra play or stick handle that kills any chance to get a goal. He seems tentative away from the puck as well. I think one of the reasons why he could be struggling is cuz he’s playing with Matthews, therefore, he has less freedom to play with the puck. He’s forced to play a more simple game because Matthews is so big, strong & smooth skater who can generate his own space when in possession, so Marner is having trouble adjusting away from that super flashy & creative style. He’s more suited for centers like Tavares & Kadri. They aren’t as big, strong & smooth skaters therefore they have to do more off the puck work to get their goals. This gives Marner more freedom to create with his skillset. Even with Bozak in his rookie year & Dvorak in Juniors, that’s how he was so successful. Another reason is that Marner is not playing with any confidence at all. He’s way over his head after getting grossly overpaid in the off-season - he should’ve got the Rantanen deal at most because Rantanen is the better player anyway IMO. Honestly if the Leafs sign a good stay at home defenseman who can skate like DeMelo / Tanev, they are set to be cup contenders. But they have a black hole who is holding them back, that is Marner. A change of scenery has to happen if he doesn’t get his act together. I don’t want him to go down the same path as Galchenyuk & Yakupov.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Zadorov, Nikita		4	$4,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
DeMelo, Dylan	4	$5,000,000
Spezza, Jason	1	$1,000,000
Clifford, Kyle	2	$1,500,000

Trades

TOR

Compher, J.T.
Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
2020 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Marner, Mitchell ($1,643,000 retained)

TOR

Aston-Reese, Zach
2020 3rd round pick (PIT)

PIT

Zadorov, Nikita

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Mitchell Marner: $1,643,000 (15.07%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$86,000,000	$81,574,783	$0	$400,000	$4,425,217

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $1,000,000$1,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, RW UFA - 3
	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Clifford, Kyle $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	DeMelo, Dylan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Korshkov, Yegor $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.

AnalyticsGeek

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@Random2152 @jack_ @leafs101 @Boomer125 @leafs_and_sens_fan

What’d you guys think?

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.

asauer1122

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Omg you just made leaf fans look awful. I hope you delete this post, then your account, and throw out whatever device you posted from. I also cant believe you said marner in the same sentence as chucky and yakupov

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:26 a.m.

AnalyticsGeek

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Quoting: asauer1122

All I’m saying is that Marner’s play has stunk this season & if he doesn’t pick it up, I fear that he will be out of the league.

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.

Ragsandbluesfan

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Marner for doughty

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.

MisstheWhalers

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The season when guys sign their big money deals they usually struggle a bit due to the change/pressure they put upon themselves, that's likely all it is with Marner.

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:43 a.m.

asauer1122

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

All I’m saying is that Marner’s play has stunk this season & if he doesn’t pick it up, I fear that he will be out of the league.

what the hell kinda drugs are you on

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:44 a.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

@Random2152 @jack_ @leafs101 @Boomer125 @leafs_and_sens_fan

What’d you guys think?

They need to get much more if they are retaining.

Mar. 7, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.

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COL takes that and runs away laughing.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.

mhockey91

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Quoting: ClockReads2113

COL takes that and runs away laughing.

This account is just a burner for @mikeypensfan.
Actually, his account isn’t even coming up so it probably got deleted

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:15 p.m.

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BuFfaLOFaN

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

All I’m saying is that Marner’s play has stunk this season & if he doesn’t pick it up, I fear that he will be out of the league.

Listen, your probably not wrong he is struggling, but to trade him for that is rediculiuos, he is still a top 20 winger for sure in this league and he will pick the play back up. He is getting paid alot meaning he thinks he needs to be better make fancy plays, next year he will be a totally different player. I believe that he had the tools to score 100 and have a great year when it comes to steals as well, marners elite he won't be out of the league. He just needs time to adjust to the pressure of getting paid 11m

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

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Quoting: asauer1122

This isn't a leaf fan, I am certain it's an internet not and not a real person. Says the same stuff and when questioned will say something like, "Interesting comment, when I go on twitter all I see is Leaf fans hating Marner which is why I say this.". I am waiting for him to say, "hello fellow real humans, let's converse about hockey like all real humans do"

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

All I’m saying is that Marner’s play has stunk this season & if he doesn’t pick it up, I fear that he will be out of the league.

When ever you get those captcha things asking if you are a robot, does that cause you to feel shame because you can't say no?

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.

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jmac490

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Can we stop feeding this troll? This is MikeyThePensFan and his favourite player is Guentzel. He enjoys trolling Leafs fans.

I'd appreciate it if you'd just go back to your other account and post about Guentzal being the best player the league has ever seen.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.

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Quoting: mhockey91

This account is just a burner for @mikeypensfan.
Actually, his account isn’t even coming up so it probably got deleted

Quoting: jmac490

FYI Admins automatically get notified of double accounts so they'll handle it if it in fact a duplicate.

Best thing to do is to ignore this user.

Please use this option if you don't like a user posts. Don't post on their AGM's and give them more fire.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:42 p.m.

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Quoting: F50marco

I see your name is green, are you an admin now?

Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

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F50marco

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Quoting: mhockey91

I see your name is green, are you an admin now?

Nope, just a super moderator.

Admins are the head hancho's like Banks and Jarvis.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Marner for doughty

I think Leaf fans would be happy to do that. They get a steady 2 way defenseman with offensive upside for the same cap hit.

Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

They need to get much more if they are retaining.

I tend to agree, but I just don’t think teams are willing to give up more for him. They all know he’s struggling right now, so they only want to buy low.

Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:56 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

The season when guys sign their big money deals they usually struggle a bit due to the change/pressure they put upon themselves, that's likely all it is with Marner.

Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN

I hope you guys are right. It’s just, he should never have gotten 11 million to begin with. The Rantanen cap hit was the maximum. His lacklustre play is gonna cost the leafs a chance to win the cup this season.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

When ever you get those captcha things asking if you are a robot, does that cause you to feel shame because you can't say no?

Just because you don’t like my posts doesn’t make a robot, come on man.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

Just because you don’t like my posts doesn’t make a robot, come on man.

Being a robot makes you a robot.

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Mar. 7, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

@Random2152 @jack_ @leafs101 @Boomer125 @leafs_and_sens_fan

What’d you guys think?

joke

Mar. 7, 2020 at 3:38 p.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

@Random2152 @jack_ @leafs101 @Boomer125 @leafs_and_sens_fan

What’d you guys think?

It's a pretty terrible trade, very pointless and reaks of trolling

Mar. 7, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

All I’m saying is that Marner’s play has stunk this season & if he doesn’t pick it up, I fear that he will be out of the league.

If only he wasn't scoring 90 points a year one could actually take you seriously...

Mar. 7, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.

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He hasn't been that good but this trade is horrible. One could even say the leafs finishing talent agaisnt LA is better then this trade

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