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Rangers Biggest Hole 2C

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Initial Creation Date: Mar. 8, 2020
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How do we acquire a 2c. I hope it can be chytil but i still think he is at least two years away from possibly filling that role. outside of chytil there is no other center prospect that has that upside. Neither of lias or howden have the offensive skill to do so. So what are the options.
1. You can sign strome to a long term extension. I am not a fan of this solution since he is questionable defensively and I am still not totally sure if he can play without panarin.
2. Trade up in this years draft and draft one. Since the rangers have most likely two middle to late first round picks and plenty of assets to trade around i think this is the best option. One of Byfield/Stutzle/Rossi/Lundell/Perfetti are all centers that are likely going in the top 10. Granted it would take a couple of years for them to make an impact it is still the best rout to go.
3. Free Agency. The only decent free agent center is granlund and he is going to demand too much and he has been having a rough time since he got to nashville.
4. Trade. the main issue i have with a trade is the age and salary of the player we are likely to get. while a guy like trocheck would be a nice fit at 26 and 4.75 per year is it really the right rout to go. Most of the core outside out mika and artemiy are 18-22. I guess the real question im asking is if the rangers are trying to win now/next year or 3/4 years down the road.
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Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:11 p.m.
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Strome is going to have to be until Cytil is ready. The rangers arent ready for a run yet. Once you get Lund and Smith and all the buyouts off the books you can really load up and have prospects ready and be the contenders you want to be
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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How about an O/S to Cirelli?
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
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Offer the Hawks a package for Dylan Strome. A line of Panarin - Dylan - Ryan would be interesting
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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How about an O/S to Cirelli?


I really dont want to lose the first next year. I don't think the rangers are in the position and i think almost any offer sheet that comes to tampa that is reasonable will be matched. They just have to trade 2 of johnson/palat/gourde
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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Strome is going to have to be until Cytil is ready. The rangers arent ready for a run yet. Once you get Lund and Smith and all the buyouts off the books you can really load up and have prospects ready and be the contenders you want to be


the problem is that there is no one in the organization that can take that spot with the slight chance of chytil. The reason is that if our window is 2/3 years away we should draft or trade up in the draft as high as we can to get the best center prospect available. then by the time that window starts to open that center will still be on the ELC and hopefully thriving in the 2C role.
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Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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Strome's been good, why is he not a 2C?
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Strome's been good, why is he not a 2C?


defensively he's just not that great. additionally, we do not know if he is just a product of panarin. i would prefer to sell high on him at the draft but we have no one to take his place as of now.
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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Strome's been good, why is he not a 2C?


unless we can somehow get byfield or maby stutzle
Mar. 8, 2020 at 5:58 p.m.
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I would try Chytil at 2C.
Mar. 8, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Vermathex
I really dont want to lose the first next year. I don't think the rangers are in the position and i think almost any offer sheet that comes to tampa that is reasonable will be matched. They just have to trade 2 of johnson/palat/gourde


We would lose a first second and third but then can get a first and third for Strome so we could basically do it but lose a second which I’d be 100% happy with I’d love cirelli
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:24 p.m.
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We would lose a first second and third but then can get a first and third for Strome so we could basically do it but lose a second which I’d be 100% happy with I’d love cirelli


dont see us getting first and a third for strome. If we could that would be great i just dont see it. the only team that i could see is dallas potentially. If we got that for strome i still would be wary of a cirelli offer sheet.
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:32 p.m.
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I would try Chytil at 2C.


No gurantee hes ready
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Vermathex
I really dont want to lose the first next year. I don't think the rangers are in the position and i think almost any offer sheet that comes to tampa that is reasonable will be matched. They just have to trade 2 of johnson/palat/gourde


Trade the canes 1st for one next season and then we can use ours for an offer sheet
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:40 p.m.
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No gurantee hes ready


Ya but a fews game there shouldn't really hurt his development.
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Offer sheet cirelli 6.3x5 which only gives up a 1st and a 3rd
NYR have had so many 1st last couple of years and I have yet to see any Tampa AGM with reason giving Cirelli anything above 4.5M
Mar. 8, 2020 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Vermathex
the problem is that there is no one in the organization that can take that spot with the slight chance of chytil. The reason is that if our window is 2/3 years away we should draft or trade up in the draft as high as we can to get the best center prospect available. then by the time that window starts to open that center will still be on the ELC and hopefully thriving in the 2C role.

For now Strome is the best option to start at 2C next year- assuming they sign him to a short term deal...Chytil still not there yet- so let him continue to develop- once he’s ready- put to 2C

As far as other options for 2C- they can try trading some D prospects for forward prospects...but typically top 2 centers are either drafted or signed UFA (very expensive)...once the season finishes we can see how the draft tiers play out as well as the positions of the Rangers’ picks to see where to take it from there (trade up/down/take your pick)...Rangers will have no shortage of options- except finding 2C outside the organization probably not happening
Mar. 8, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
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For now Strome is the best option to start at 2C next year- assuming they sign him to a short term deal...Chytil still not there yet- so let him continue to develop- once he’s ready- put to 2C

As far as other options for 2C- they can try trading some D prospects for forward prospects...but typically top 2 centers are either drafted or signed UFA (very expensive)...once the season finishes we can see how the draft tiers play out as well as the positions of the Rangers’ picks to see where to take it from there (trade up/down/take your pick)...Rangers will have no shortage of options- except finding 2C outside the organization probably not happening[/quote}

i would like to draft somewhere in the top 10 and i could see NYR packaging two picks and then some to move up
Mar. 8, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
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Bridge Strome. Chytil, Andersson, Barron or Henriksson become 2C in 2 years.
Mar. 9, 2020 at 8:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
Bridge Strome. Chytil, Andersson, Barron or Henriksson become 2C in 2 years.


With Strome- if his contract fits into the salary structure w/o putting up a long term roadblock to developing players- he's almost a no brainer for a temp 2C because you know what he is. Chytl is the guy we all hope emerges as 2C- but that can't be rushed. The remaining guys mentioned (hope Lias gets another chance) are probably more suited to the bottom 6...of course more time is needed to see further development of Barron and Henriksson...and of course see which way the Lias situation goes....As far as drafting- they gotta draft the best player on their board when the time comes...but hopefully that player is a C...they do have to address their organizational lack of forward depth- by drafting forwards or by trading a blue chip D prospect or two for a high ceiling F prospect.
Mar. 9, 2020 at 9:44 a.m.
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With Strome- if his contract fits into the salary structure w/o putting up a long term roadblock to developing players- he's almost a no brainer for a temp 2C because you know what he is. Chytl is the guy we all hope emerges as 2C- but that can't be rushed. The remaining guys mentioned (hope Lias gets another chance) are probably more suited to the bottom 6...of course more time is needed to see further development of Barron and Henriksson...and of course see which way the Lias situation goes....As far as drafting- they gotta draft the best player on their board when the time comes...but hopefully that player is a C...they do have to address their organizational lack of forward depth- by drafting forwards or by trading a blue chip D prospect or two for a high ceiling F prospect.


the one thing the Rangers have always done well is building from the back end, think McD, Girardi, Staal and Hank. With the trades they made for ADA, Fox, Lindgren and Trouba, drafting Nils and Miller and also drafting Igor and Georgiev they have done an exceptional job. Their "lack" of forward depth is a direct result of that. I honestly do not think the Rangers thought their rebuild would take less than 3 seasons. With the money coming off the books next season, forward depth can be acquired. In the 21/22 season, if they have a full time 2C (Strome or other) and Kakko/Kravtsov firing on all cylinder, Gorton's only concern should be building a strong 3rd/4th line.
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Mar. 9, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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the one thing the Rangers have always done well is building from the back end, think McD, Girardi, Staal and Hank. With the trades they made for ADA, Fox, Lindgren and Trouba, drafting Nils and Miller and also drafting Igor and Georgiev they have done an exceptional job. Their "lack" of forward depth is a direct result of that. I honestly do not think the Rangers thought their rebuild would take less than 3 seasons. With the money coming off the books next season, forward depth can be acquired. In the 21/22 season, if they have a full time 2C (Strome or other) and Kakko/Kravtsov firing on all cylinder, Gorton's only concern should be building a strong 3rd/4th line.


i think they have lemieux and ganuthier in the mix for that and possibly fast but thats about it for 3/4th liners
Mar. 9, 2020 at 3:01 p.m.
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Ya but a fews game there shouldn't really hurt his development.


Well strome and mika are healthy so I dont see it
 
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