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Matheson Saad and shedding

Created by: joshelkin
Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 11, 2020
Published: Mar. 12, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Another option for 3RW is sending Wahlstrom back to the AHL (if he's not ready of course) and signing someone like Granlund or Galchenyuk to a 1 year $4.5M "prove it" deal.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,000,000
2$2,000,000
6$6,000,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Matheson, Michael
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More defensive minded
FLA
  1. Leddy, Nick
Additional Details:
More offensive minded
2.
CHI
  1. Bailey, Josh
Additional Details:
Doesn't necessarily have to be Saad. But the idea is to trade Bailey for a pending UFA of similar skill (who likely wouldn't stay with his current team). The team acquiring Bailey gets some security knowing they've got a guy locked up for a few years. Isles get more flexibility down the line without significantly downgrading.

Other candidates for this: Stepan, Palmieri, Schwartz etc
3.
NYI
  1. 2020 6th round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Hickey, Thomas
Additional Details:
CGY has holes on LD
4.
NYI
  1. 2020 7th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua [RFA Rights]
  2. Komarov, Leo
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Payment to take Leo $3 x 2 left
5.
NYI
  1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Aho, Sebastian [RFA Rights]
  2. Koivula, Otto
  3. Ladd, Andrew
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Payment to take Ladd $5.5 x 3 left
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$85,000,000$80,382,500$0$1,287,500$4,617,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RW
RFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1

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Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:09 p.m.
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Matheson is overrated and carries a pretty big cap hit for the next 6 years. I’d rather have Aho/Vande sompel or sign Greene for a year until one of them are ready
Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
Matheson is overrated and carries a pretty big cap hit for the next 6 years. I’d rather have Aho/Vande sompel or sign Greene for a year until one of them are ready


I think Aho is your best shot but I moved him to shed Ladd. Agree signing Greene back could work. I do like that Matheson is more of a true defensive d-man though. Basically Greene but a lot younger. He might thrive in this system and the contract will look like the bargain FLA intended it to be. We still save *a little* money upfront which also helps
Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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Quoting: joshelkin
I think Aho is your best shot but I moved him to shed Ladd. Agree signing Greene back could work. I do like that Matheson is more of a true defensive d-man though. Basically Greene but a lot younger. He might thrive in this system and the contract will look like the bargain FLA intended it to be. We still save *a little* money upfront which also helps


I get what you’re saying, but pelech -pulock, toews-dobson is a very good top 4. Toews has struggled but he will come around, he’s a solid 2nd pairing D. I’d rather use that cap space for offense
Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
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Calgary has negative holes on LD, actually they have so many anti-holes there that 1 of their LD is out all season, 1 was sent down because hes waiver exempt and still 2 of their LD are playing on the right side.
Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Calgary has negative holes on LD, actually they have so many anti-holes there that 1 of their LD is out all season, 1 was sent down because hes waiver exempt and still 2 of their LD are playing on the right side.


They're prob losing Brodie and Gustafsson in FA. Gio is turning 37, Hanifin was mentioned on TSN trade bait. I don't think it's too far fetched. Could be another team though. Just an example.
Mar. 12, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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They're prob losing Brodie and Gustafsson in FA. Gio is turning 37, Hanifin was mentioned on TSN trade bait. I don't think it's too far fetched. Could be another team though. Just an example.


I doubt they all of Brodie, Gus, Hamonic, and Forbort. Almost certainly at least 1 is resigned. Valimaki is NHL ready, Kylington has proven himself. Hanifin wont be moved for anything less then a potential 2C of Domi caliber.
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Mar. 12, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.
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I wonder if Florida would do something like Leddy and Ladd for Matheson. For Florida, they'd upgrade on defense and get out of a long contract. For NYI they downgrade on defense but shed Ladd.
Mar. 12, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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I don’t know if the Hawks are looking for Bailey. He’s 30 and still has 4 years left so you worry a bit about regression. He’s more offensively minded than Saad but Saad still scores 20 a year and is more defensively minded. He’s also 2 years younger, but more expensive. Offense isn’t an issue for the Hawks. So acquiring a more offensive guy may not be of pressing need.

I’d prefer to keep Saad. Though I think the value is fair in the trade. It’s overall a good trade.
Mar. 12, 2020 at 2:02 p.m.
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Saad would stay with the Hawks if I were to guess, but they would not want Bailey since they are retooling
Mar. 12, 2020 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
I don’t know if the Hawks are looking for Bailey. He’s 30 and still has 4 years left so you worry a bit about regression. He’s more offensively minded than Saad but Saad still scores 20 a year and is more defensively minded. He’s also 2 years younger, but more expensive. Offense isn’t an issue for the Hawks. So acquiring a more offensive guy may not be of pressing need.

I’d prefer to keep Saad. Though I think the value is fair in the trade. It’s overall a good trade.


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Saad would stay with the Hawks if I were to guess, but they would not want Bailey since they are retooling


Saad was just an example. It's all in the trade description. But you guys get the idea
Mar. 12, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: slapshot723
I wonder if Florida would do something like Leddy and Ladd for Matheson. For Florida, they'd upgrade on defense and get out of a long contract. For NYI they downgrade on defense but shed Ladd.


I doubt that they would take Ladd for that swap. We would have to add IMO. Florida isn't exactly booming with cap space and they've got their own free agents to take care of
 
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