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Am I overpaying or underpaying - CAR trade

Created by: GFD1996
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 15, 2020
Published: Mar. 15, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,250,000
1$750,000
3$3,500,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
3$1,250,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. McKeown, Roland [RFA Rights]
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
CAR has Hamilton, Slavin, Skjei, Fleury, Bean, Liljegren, Forsling a useful winger, a very solid prospect, and a valuable 1st rounder that they can use in conjunction with the other 1st acquired from TOR to make another significant acquisition.
CAR
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
  5. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Obviously TOR gets a much needed upgrade at RHD and based on the price for D men (e.g. Muzzin) a 1st is almost mandatory.
2.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
Logo of the TOR
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$85,000,000$84,727,283$0$0$272,717
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$821,667$821,667
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
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Underpaying severly. Pesce starts with Nylander? Don't like it, find another D man, we don't have to trade Pesce
Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
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GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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I think the value is fair but I doubt Carolina would trade Pesce ever
Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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Hurricane Waddell
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Not even the Coronavirus and shoulder surgery will stop the Pesce/Leafs trades.
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Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Not even the Coronavirus and shoulder surgery will stop the Pesce/Leafs trades.


Pesce can retire and these trades will still go on
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Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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Phenchod
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Overpaying what is wrong with everyone
Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
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Its probably gotta be Nylander. Canes dont have a use for a ton of okay stuff
Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Canucks_Fan69
Overpaying what is wrong with everyone


If you think this is an overpay, you should watch Brett Pesce some more. He's the most underrated D man in the NHL, and he's probably a top 20 D man.
Mar. 15, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
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Pop Pop
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Carolinas depth puts them in a position to move him for fewer better pieces. If they move peste or slaving it's gonna be for a game breaker
Mar. 15, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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Underpay, CAR doesn't need anything going to them
Mar. 15, 2020 at 5:26 p.m.
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Way overpaid. 2 Prospects, speedy winger, and some high picks??? for a d-man and a 4th liner/ahler?

btw, dont see the need for the engvall trade
Mar. 15, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.
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Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Mitch1_6
Way overpaid. 2 Prospects, speedy winger, and some high picks??? for a d-man and a 4th liner/ahler?

btw, dont see the need for the engvall trade


Did you see who the d man was?
Mar. 15, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Mitch1_6
Way overpaid. 2 Prospects, speedy winger, and some high picks??? for a d-man and a 4th liner/ahler?

btw, dont see the need for the engvall trade


-Engvall trade was mostly a depth move that adds more depth on D and opens cap room to re-sign Clifford who I think brings a more valuable asset to the team
-They got a top 4 RHD which is an expensive commodity and a promising RHD to fill out the top 6
Mar. 15, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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And people would say this is a overpayment to Manson even though I think imo he has a better upside
And I’ve seen other pesce trades where waaaay less was going to Carolina and people said it was a overpayment
Like what the he’ll acgms
Mar. 16, 2020 at 2:42 p.m.
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And people would say this is a overpayment to Manson even though I think imo he has a better upside
And I’ve seen other pesce trades where waaaay less was going to Carolina and people said it was a overpayment
Like what the he’ll acgms


It's hilarious - you get such radically different opinions and takes
 
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