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Major trade with Flames plus a move with Hawks - no cap increase

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 18, 2020
Published: Mar. 18, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$1,250,000
2$1,000,000
1$800,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Clifford re-signed
LAK
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Backlund, Mikael
  3. Bennett, Sam
  4. Pospisil, Martin
  5. 2020 1st round pick (CGY)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Carpenter, Ryan
  2. Seeler, Nick
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (CGY)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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23$81,500,000$79,971,783$0$0$1,528,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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I don’t really see where kerfoot fits in our lineup, but I guess the value is okay. I think another team is a better fit.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:23 p.m.
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absolutely disgusting return for Marner, vile, awful, horrific.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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absolutely disgusting return for Marner, vile, awful, horrific.


If your trading Marner were getting Anderson or Hanifin + a Lindholm type player otherwise we are not interested
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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Lots of cap going Calgary's way....they would have to delete any mid cap player to make it work.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
absolutely disgusting return for Marner, vile, awful, horrific.


Care to explain why?

Young TOP4 D. 2C, Mid-6 forward. B-prospect and a 1st round pick should be more than enough for one freaking player.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.
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Lots of cap going Calgary's way....they would have to delete any mid cap player to make it work.


Not really. They're giving in around $12M and receiving $14M. The difference isn't that big.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:40 p.m.
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If your trading Marner were getting Anderson or Hanifin + a Lindholm type player otherwise we are not interested


Nah, Lindholm's not moving. He's two times cheaper than Marner is and scores close the same rate. Also can play C.

Don't see CGY being able to afford to do that trade 1-on-1 anyway, although value might be fair.

Adding Andersson/Hanifin is just brutal.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.
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Nah, Lindholm's not moving. He's two times cheaper than Marner is and scores close the same rate. Also can play C.

Don't see CGY being able to afford to do that trade 1-on-1 anyway, although value might be fair.

Adding Andersson/Hanifin is just brutal.


simple answer to that question. then were not interested.
Um Lindholm is not even close to Marner. If you didn't know he is 1.13 points per game so over a point per. Lindholm is below ppg.
No need for 2 useless players
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:54 p.m.
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simple answer to that question. then were not interested.
Um Lindholm is not even close to Marner. If you didn't know he is 1.13 points per game so over a point per. Lindholm is below ppg.
No need for 2 useless players


Let's just say that if one thinks that Marner should be paid twice compared to Lindholm, then shouldn't he should perform twice as better. Otherwise either Marner's overpaid, or Lindholm's underpaid.

Personally I think both of these are true, and therefore Lindholm has much more value than his "below PPG" stats show out.

Who do you refer as two useless players?
Mar. 18, 2020 at 8:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
simple answer to that question. then were not interested.
Um Lindholm is not even close to Marner. If you didn't know he is 1.13 points per game so over a point per. Lindholm is below ppg.
No need for 2 useless players


last time i checked Lindhom has twice the goals Marner has and Calgary is one of the lowest scoring teams in the league this year. Toronto on the other hand is the highest scoring. Last year when Calgary was one of the highest scoring teams like Toronto, Lindholm was a PPG player with inferior linemates. Ill take Lindholm at 4.85 for 4 more years 9 times out of 10 before Marner at 10.8 for 5 years. you are delusional to think their values arent close
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Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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Let's just say that if one thinks that Marner should be paid twice compared to Lindholm, then shouldn't he should perform twice as better. Otherwise either Marner's overpaid, or Lindholm's underpaid.

Personally I think both of these are true, and therefore Lindholm has much more value than his "below PPG" stats show out.

Who do you refer as two useless players?


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
last time i checked Lindhom has twice the goals Marner has and Calgary is one of the lowest scoring teams in the league this year. Toronto on the other hand is the highest scoring. Last year when Calgary was one of the highest scoring teams like Toronto, Lindholm was a PPG player with inferior linemates. Ill take Lindholm at 4.85 for 4 more years 9 times out of 10 before Marner at 10.8 for 5 years. you are delusional to think their values arent close


Holy crap how many times do I have to tell you were not interested. Oh yea so your saying just because linholm has more goals means he is better oh I get it. Pls get destroyed by Edmonton because they are much better than. They don't have a player who likes to hit players in valuable positions and then start chewing his mouth guard and walking away.
Hanifin is overrated and Lindholm is useless to us
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:19 p.m.
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Not really. They're giving in around $12M and receiving $14M. The difference isn't that big.


They are receiving 14m for two players, and giving 12 for three NHLers. Add another 2m for the third player to balance the roster, it's a 4m cap difference.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
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Hh
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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Holy crap how many times do I have to tell you were not interested. Oh yea so your saying just because linholm has more goals means he is better oh I get it. Pls get destroyed by Edmonton because they are much better than. They don't have a player who likes to hit players in valuable positions and then start chewing his mouth guard and walking away.
Hanifin is overrated and Lindholm is useless to us


Lmao you're an idiot
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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Hawks are not interested, especially with no cap increase
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:34 p.m.
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They are receiving 14m for two players, and giving 12 for three NHLers. Add another 2m for the third player to balance the roster, it's a 4m cap difference.


If their lines consist of...
Tkachuk-Monahan-Marner
Gaudreau-Lindholm-Johnsson
Mangiapane-Ryan-Dube
Lucic-Jankowski-Rieder

Giordano-Hanifin
Välimäki-Hamonic
Kylington-Stone

...they should have no problems with being able to afford this.
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:35 p.m.
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You can't sign a Ufa and then immediately deal him, good luck signing anyone with a nmc after that


What
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:39 p.m.
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What


My bad, read it backwards
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Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:42 p.m.
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Lmao you're an idiot


ok thanks that hurt my feelings
Mar. 18, 2020 at 9:59 p.m.
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Holy crap how many times do I have to tell you were not interested. Oh yea so your saying just because linholm has more goals means he is better oh I get it. Pls get destroyed by Edmonton because they are much better than. They don't have a player who likes to hit players in valuable positions and then start chewing his mouth guard and walking away.
Hanifin is overrated and Lindholm is useless to us


Ovi has like 14 assist this year but 48 goals, does that make him worse then Marner? As for interest, Flames dont need Marner so the feelings mutual there. IDK why you are brining up Edmonton and Tkachuk but I hope Tampa passes Boston and you go out in the 1st round too. Not one of the quoted comments mentions Hanifin. Lol? And if you are loosing Marner and replacing him with Lindholm + the leafs get significantly better.
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Mar. 18, 2020 at 10:04 p.m.
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Ovi has like 14 assist this year but 48 goals, does that make him worse then Marner? As for interest, Flames dont need Marner so the feelings mutual there. IDK why you are brining up Edmonton and Tkachuk but I hope Tampa passes Boston and you go out in the 1st round too. Not one of the quoted comments mentions Hanifin. Lol? And if you are loosing Marner and replacing him with Lindholm + the leafs get significantly better.


Lol you didn't even get what I said. Leafs already have goal scorers on all 3 lines. I never said Lindholm was a bad player. And so if we are adding Lindholm to our team we will be better?
I didn't realize you didn't know math. 94>78
Again, Marner is not getting traded unless its Lindholm and hanifin
Mar. 18, 2020 at 10:50 p.m.
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Lol you didn't even get what I said. Leafs already have goal scorers on all 3 lines. I never said Lindholm was a bad player. And so if we are adding Lindholm to our team we will be better?
I didn't realize you didn't know math. 94>78
Again, Marner is not getting traded unless its Lindholm and hanifin


Yes, if the leafs loose Marner at the cost of acquiring Lindholm and a top 4 RD like Andersson that's a massive win. Lindholm is just as good defensively and will put up 85+ points playing with Matthews and Tavares.
I guess math confuses you too.
94pts / 10.895M = 8.63 points per million
78pts / 4.85M = 16.08 points per million
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Mar. 19, 2020 at 12:27 a.m.
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Hanifin + Bennett + Ryan + Pospisil + 1st (2020)
for
Marner

TOR gains $500k in cap space, gets 3 roster players (top 3 dman + middle 6 23-year old + solid two-way center) plus pick and prospect.

TOR fans probably don’t want to do it, fine fair enough, but that’s enough value to get Barzal from NYI probably...
Mar. 19, 2020 at 7:55 a.m.
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Hanifin + Bennett + Ryan + Pospisil + 1st (2020)
for
Marner

TOR gains $500k in cap space, gets 3 roster players (top 3 dman + middle 6 23-year old + solid two-way center) plus pick and prospect.

TOR fans probably don’t want to do it, fine fair enough, but that’s enough value to get Barzal from NYI probably...


That's less than I've offered, and some Leafs fans have already soiled their pants because of it.

Tbh won't see that getting you Marner. Or Barzal to be fair.
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Mar. 19, 2020 at 8:16 a.m.
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Yes, if the leafs loose Marner at the cost of acquiring Lindholm and a top 4 RD like Andersson that's a massive win. Lindholm is just as good defensively and will put up 85+ points playing with Matthews and Tavares.
I guess math confuses you too.
94pts / 10.895M = 8.63 points per million
78pts / 4.85M = 16.08 points per million


Ok bro your actually so stupid. If you don't know anything about leaf players and their roles then don't do Leafs acgms because you don't even know what your doing
 
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