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2 Compliance Buyouts

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Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 23, 2020
Published: Mar. 23, 2020
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I am pretty sure Montreal would buy out Carey Price (right?). No idea what you could re-sign him for. But if he is getting paid via the buyout, maybe he would not mind taking a lowball 1-year contract?

100% Lucic is getting bought out. So I am guessing that the retained 750k goes away also?
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Mar. 23, 2020 at 11:14 a.m.
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They'll likely buy out Karl Alzner
Mar. 23, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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If the cap stays the same, There will be one compliance buyout not two. If salary cap would need to drop dramatically for there to be two buyouts.
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Mar. 23, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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Zero chance MTL buys out Price. Fans would riot. And leafs take that and run.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 11:41 a.m.
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Carey price is still a elite goalie even still if is stats doesn’t reflect it this year. Montreal had some really big issues defensively but there absolutely no chance that they buy out is contract. And it’s even more ridiculous that you sign him for one year at that salary.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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Carey price is still a elite goalie even still if is stats doesn’t reflect it this year. Montreal had some really big issues defensively but there absolutely no chance that they buy out is contract. And it’s even more ridiculous that you sign him for one year at that salary.


Even if hes a in the top 5-10 range of goalies its proven that goalies are replaceable, hard to predict and even then no team should be spending that much on a goalie. Especially at prices age. The term on that contract makes it way worse then the alzner contract
Mar. 23, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
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Even if hes a in the top 5-10 range of goalies its proven that goalies are replaceable, hard to predict and even then no team should be spending that much on a goalie. Especially at prices age. The term on that contract makes it way worse then the alzner contract


Carey Price is the only reason the Habs weren’t battling with detroit this year for the Lafrenière lottery. Last year the Habs wasn’t supposed to be near a playoff spot and he was by a wide marge the best goalie from late november to the ends of the season. Playing a almost everygame and posting absolute crazy number. He was around 930% save pourcentage, with a 2.30goal against. Is value goes beyond is play on ice. He have performed at high level and have been a true leaders i the past year. Maybe is contract is not worth 10,5 a season but Montreal will leave with it. It’s better having Cambell and Andersen in goal ? Or having 40+ millions commited to 4 forward?
Mar. 23, 2020 at 12:11 p.m.
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Ix-nay on the Toronto trade.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Carey Price is the only reason the Habs weren’t battling with detroit this year for the Lafrenière lottery. Last year the Habs wasn’t supposed to be near a playoff spot and he was by a wide marge the best goalie from late november to the ends of the season. Playing a almost everygame and posting absolute crazy number. He was around 930% save pourcentage, with a 2.30goal against. Is value goes beyond is play on ice. He have performed at high level and have been a true leaders i the past year. Maybe is contract is not worth 10,5 a season but Montreal will leave with it. It’s better having Cambell and Andersen in goal ? Or having 40+ millions commited to 4 forward?


It definitely is. The fact that Hes at a .909 with a negative GSAx and making 10.5 million is insane. Hes not the only reason the habs arent in last because the habs are a top 10 5v5 team in the league and hes letting in more goals then he should be. Andersen hasn't been good this season but it's more likely that he bounces back next season. A tandem of Andersen and Campbell is way better then price and whoever they throw in as a backup. having 40 million tied up between 4 forwards isnt a bad thing when the 4 forwards are Matthews, Tavares, marner and nylander. It's a whole lot better then having over 28 million tied up in Price, weber, alzner and drouin
Mar. 23, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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It definitely is. The fact that Hes at a .909 with a negative GSAx and making 10.5 million is insane. Hes not the only reason the habs arent in last because the habs are a top 10 5v5 team in the league and hes letting in more goals then he should be. Andersen hasn't been good this season but it's more likely that he bounces back next season. A tandem of Andersen and Campbell is way better then price and whoever they throw in as a backup. having 40 million tied up between 4 forwards isnt a bad thing when the 4 forwards are Matthews, Tavares, marner and nylander. It's a whole lot better then having over 28 million tied up in Price, weber, alzner and drouin


Yeah when its exposing your team giving terrible contract and sh*t load of money to 4 players make all the sense in the world but when its Carey price who had a bad season its the best idea to buy him out. You probably don’t know that but Montreal was rank last in high danger chance allowed in the league. He doesn’t face a huge among of shot but half of them are top end scoring chance. That have a major affect on all is stats bit doesn’t reflect the reality. But the main point is that Price won’t get buy out and he will have a better season then Andersen next year.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 12:54 p.m.
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Yeah when its exposing your team giving terrible contract and sh*t load of money to 4 players make all the sense in the world but when its Carey price who had a bad season its the best idea to buy him out. You probably don’t know that but Montreal was rank last in high danger chance allowed in the league. He doesn’t face a huge among of shot but half of them are top end scoring chance. That have a major affect on all is stats bit doesn’t reflect the reality. But the main point is that Price won’t get buy out and he will have a better season then Andersen next year.


For 10.5 million at the very least he could at least be average. He hasn't been great for probably two seasons now. There is pretty much nothing out there that says you can predict goalies so I know you are just guessing. The only thing out there is looking at consistency. Price has been consistently declining but that's about it. Andersen has been a .919 goalie for the previous 3 season so as far as we know this season is an outlier. Next season he could be the best goalie in the nhl or become martin Jones. No one knows it could be the same with price except Price has been following along his age curve. With Andersen it's far more reasonable to expect him to get back to around .919 . Price will be 33 next season and he cant even do what's expected of him and hes not worth 10.5 million now. Over the next 6 seasons theres no way he'll be worth close to that. To even think that is insane.

Montreal is a very good xGA team
Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.
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For 10.5 million at the very least he could at least be average. He hasn't been great for probably two seasons now. There is pretty much nothing out there that says you can predict goalies so I know you are just guessing. The only thing out there is looking at consistency. Price has been consistently declining but that's about it. Andersen has been a .919 goalie for the previous 3 season so as far as we know this season is an outlier. Next season he could be the best goalie in the nhl or become martin Jones. No one knows it could be the same with price except Price has been following along his age curve. With Andersen it's far more reasonable to expect him to get back to around .919 . Price will be 33 next season and he cant even do what's expected of him and hes not worth 10.5 million now. Over the next 6 seasons theres no way he'll be worth close to that. To even think that is insane.

Montreal is a very good xGA team


So the leafs should buy out Tavares since he is declining this season and since he turn 30 next year is 11 millions contract will become a bullet. So it’s crazy to pay a guys who is 30 11 millions completely stupid. I agree lets buy out every players that have underperformed this year.
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Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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So the leafs should buy out Tavares since he is declining this season and since he turn 30 next year is 11 millions contract will become a bullet. So it’s crazy to pay a guys who is 30 11 millions completely stupid. I agree lets buy out every players that have underperformed this year.


Oof at least JT has provided value thats way above average and has had one bad season all while just having a baby right before the season starts and he would have gotten around 80 points but yes... let's lump everything into the same pot because we know forwards and goalies are pretty much the exact same. Because 33 is the same thing as 30 is the exact same thing. I just checked and Tavares even expires before Price. Lmao they arent even close to being in the same position
Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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Oof at least JT has provided value thats way above average and has had one bad season all while just having a baby right before the season starts and he would have gotten around 80 points but yes... let's lump everything into the same pot because we know forwards and goalies are pretty much the exact same. Because 33 is the same thing as 30 is the exact same thing. I just checked and Tavares even expires before Price. Lmao they arent even close to being in the same position


And price to had a baby this year so that explains everything!! If its a good excuse for Tavares it should be for Carey Price.
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Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.
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And price to had a baby this year so that explains everything!! If its a good excuse for Tavares it should be for Carey Price.


Ok but did he have a baby last season or the one before? It only affected Tavares for a month or so. Since then hes been just as good as everyone would expect. JT had his baby in September. The Price's had their baby in December of 2018 so it had nothing to do with this season. Even before price had the kid he still wasnt playing well. JT definitely wont be worth 11 million for the last year or two of his contract. He'll probably still be a player worth 4 or so million. Maybe more. The difference is JT is worth the 11 million he's being paid now and for the next 3 or 4 season. Price isnt worth 10.5 now and especially isnt when we know what we know about goalies. There is no way he will be worth 10.5 in any of the next 6 seasons
Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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Ok but did he have a baby last season or the one before? It only affected Tavares for a month or so. Since then hes been just as good as everyone would expect. JT had his baby in September. The Price's had their baby in December of 2018 so it had nothing to do with this season. Even before price had the kid he still wasnt playing well. JT definitely wont be worth 11 million for the last year or two of his contract. He'll probably still be a player worth 4 or so million. Maybe more. The difference is JT is worth the 11 million he's being paid now and for the next 3 or 4 season. Price isnt worth 10.5 now and especially isnt when we know what we know about goalies. There is no way he will be worth 10.5 in any of the next 6 seasons


Actually yeas he had a baby in 2017 is little Liv and on in 2019 Millie
Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
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They'll likely buy out Karl Alzner


In this scenario, they would buy out 2 contracts. I would imagine that it would by Carey Price and Karl Alzner, yes. If it were just 1 contract, probably it would be Alzner, but it might be Carey Price because it opens up a lot of cap space?
Mar. 23, 2020 at 1:58 p.m.
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Ix-nay on the Toronto trade.


CD282, I know you are bullish on JP, but I just don't know man. He is a project that potentially has enormous dividends for the right team, but I do not think that team is Edmonton, sadly frown
Mar. 23, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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CD282, I know you are bullish on JP, but I just don't know man. He is a project that potentially has enormous dividends for the right team, but I do not think that team is Edmonton, sadly frown


So they should give him away for nothing? I'm glad Holland is smarter than that.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
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Carey price is still a elite goalie even still if is stats doesn’t reflect it this year. Montreal had some really big issues defensively but there absolutely no chance that they buy out is contract. And it’s even more ridiculous that you sign him for one year at that salary.


Respectfully, I would submit that you are looking at this wrong. Montreal buys out Carey Price because of what his contract will become near its end, not because he is not a valuable player right now. He is a fantastic player, no question about it.

Carey Price signs for less than he was making before because in this scenario, Carey Price would be paid such an enormous amount by his buyout that I do not think he would care, but I could be wrong. That's why Patrick Marleau is basically making league minimum right now, even though he's obviously worth more. Of course, this is all speculative and I could certainly be wrong.

I would also comment generally that goalies are not as valuable as they once were even a few years ago. Of course, nobody told Florida that.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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CD282, I know you are bullish on JP, but I just don't know man. He is a project that potentially has enormous dividends for the right team, but I do not think that team is Edmonton, sadly frown


When a Leafs fan say "leafs take that and run", you gotta know that your value is off. Usually they criticize anything that isn't a clear win for their team.
Mar. 23, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
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Actually yeas he had a baby in 2017 is little Liv and on in 2019 Millie


Which was not this season. He also had his first kid in may of 2016, the offseason to be exact so that wouldnt really affect him when it came to playing
 
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