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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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An idea that people are just using to fill time?

Realistically there Is no way the NHL and NHLPA ever allow for a buyout going into next season or due to the fall out of COVID-19 with where they currently stand in an expiring CBA. Things will run its course, the cap projection will adjust due to everything and they move on. Just means teams wont be giving Taylor Halls 11m or Hoffman 8m type contracts In UFA.
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
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Someone speculated that with the cap not increasing, or potentially decreasing, the NHL might give teams a free contract buyout. No one knows anything for certain....
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Someone speculated that with the cap not increasing, or potentially decreasing, the NHL might give teams a free contract buyout. No one knows anything for certain....


Pretty sure they would to amend an expiring CBA to allow that, and I cant see that happening on the NHLPAs side; agreeing to for a player to be bought out and potentially have no shot at being able to sign with a new team

crazier things have happened but I feel like that would be the NHLPA doing something to support the NHL and owners, and that would be quite the move on their part
Unless, fine you get your buyouts but we get our Olympics, figure it out NHL, its your move
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Someone speculated that with the cap not increasing, or potentially decreasing, the NHL might give teams a free contract buyout. No one knows anything for certain....


The nhl can't say the cap will go up to 84 mil and then say a month later it won't. Teams that have offered their players extensions are mad. Every team should deserve a buyout if cap stays the same
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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The nhl can't say the cap will go up to 84 mil and then say a month later it won't. Teams that have offered their players extensions are mad. Every team should deserve a buyout if cap stays the same


NHL officially haven't set anything, they gave a range in terms of a projection, and that is what it is, a projection. There is a risk even without a pandemic that the cap wouldnt be set within their projected range
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:43 p.m.
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NHL officially haven't set anything, they gave a range.


They pretty much promised a 84 mil cap. You can't break a promise and not expect teams to be fine with it
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeytor_15
They pretty much promised a 84 mil cap. You can't break a promise and not expect teams to be fine with it


they didnt promise anything, its a projection
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
they didnt promise anything, its a projection


If it was a projection, the league is an idiot for telling everyone that.
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.
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If it was a projection, the league is an idiot for telling everyone that.


they do that every year, they set a projected salary cap and dont set the final hard cap for next season until its closer to the offseason

Dec 3rd 2018...NHL projects 83m Salary cap
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Pretty sure they would to amend an expiring CBA to allow that, and I cant see that happening on the NHLPAs side; agreeing to for a player to be bought out and potentially have no shot at being able to sign with a new team

crazier things have happened but I feel like that would be the NHLPA doing something to support the NHL and owners, and that would be quite the move on their part
Unless, fine you get your buyouts but we get our Olympics, figure it out NHL, its your move


Quoting: coga16
The nhl can't say the cap will go up to 84 mil and then say a month later it won't. Teams that have offered their players extensions are mad. Every team should deserve a buyout if cap stays the same


As I finished my statement... no one knows anything for certain....

Meaning all possible scenarios are being though of by the NHL and NHLPA.... that being said we probably won’t know anything about next year and next years cap numbers until the pause is lifted or they decide to cancel the rest off the regular season and possibly playoffs. If very could likely be a few months before we know anything.

Here is a link to the article the NHL has when it released the projected numbers.
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-salary-cap-projections-for-next-season/c-315855100
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeytor_15
If it was a projection, the league is an idiot for telling everyone that.


Did you not see them do this exact thing last year? Cap was projected to be higher (I think they said $83m, but you can Google it yourself), teams signed players, cap was announced at $81.5m. If a GM acted on that projection as being truth, that's the idiot for you.
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
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As I finished my statement... no one knows anything for certain....

Meaning all possible scenarios are being though of by the NHL and NHLPA.... that being said we probably won’t know anything about next year and next years cap numbers until the pause is lifted or they decide to cancel the rest off the regular season and possibly playoffs. If very could likely be a few months before we know anything.

Here is a link to the article the NHL has when it released the projected numbers.
https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-salary-cap-projections-for-next-season/c-315855100


I think the expansion draft plays a big part in this too, that teams would abuse the compliance buyout to leverage teams in fear of protection issues, and based on how Vegas approached their draft, teams having a compliance buyout the season before the draft could really negatively impact the quality of team Seattle could pick or any additional assets they could acquire from it

Seattle is a cash cow for them waiting to happen, they will protect that
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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Would the league really lower the cap? That just seems like it will create more problems than it would solve.
Mar. 24, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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Would the league really lower the cap? That just seems like it will create more problems than it would solve.


thats my thoughts too, If anything the NHL and NHLPA will make some over complicated criteria based amendment that would allow teams to exceed the salary cap to a percentage due to a extremely lower cap. if a team meets those conditions
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
I think the expansion draft plays a big part in this too, that teams would abuse the compliance buyout to leverage teams in fear of protection issues, and based on how Vegas approached their draft, teams having a compliance buyout the season before the draft could really negatively impact the quality of team Seattle could pick or any additional assets they could acquire from it

Seattle is a cash cow for them waiting to happen, they will protect that


Stop making sense, you're an Avs fan! I'm not supposed to agree with you!
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
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Compliance buyout was mainly use to removed the long term deal sign before the new CBA rules a 8 years maximum length for contract. Contract like Erhoff, Lecavalier, or Dipietro could be bought out before a certain amount of time since you can no buyout a contract before 1/3 of is length.
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Mar. 24, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.
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Compliance buyout was mainly use to removed the long term deal sign before the new CBA rules a 8 years maximum length for contract. Contract like Erhoff, Lecavalier, or Dipietro could be bought out before a certain amount of time since you can no buyout a contract before 1/3 of is length.


The main reason wasn’t the new CBA, it was the cap decrease that came with missing half a season.
Mar. 24, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
The main reason wasn’t the new CBA, it was the cap decrease that came with missing half a season.

Actually the cap have never decreased, in 2012-13 it was fix at 60 millions but since the season where on 48 games the team where allowed a 70 millions cap. Ao this wasn’t the reason for compliance buyout since the cap was actually 6 millions higher than the prior year. And actually this was the year of the short lock out so yes it was when the new CBA was vote.
 
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