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Offer Sheets or Trade

Created by: Billy739
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 28, 2020
Published: Mar. 28, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Trade Scenario Below
Alternative Offer Sheet In the Description to Follow:

-Murray @3.5m over 4 years with a 2nd round pick as compensation or trade scenario below

-Anderson @3.7m for 5 years similar deal to what Gallagher signed when he had Andersons numbers. (1m guaranteed every year in signing bonus's) with the compensation being a 2nd round pick or trade scenario below



-Jankowski @ 1.1m for 2 years with no compensation or trade scenario below
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,250,000
4$1,500,000
2$900,000
2$1,100,000
4$3,500,000
5$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
2.
3.
MTL
  1. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
PIT
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. McShane, Allan [Reserve List]
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
4.
MTL
  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. Houde, Samuel [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the STL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the OTT
2021
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the MTL
2022
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,978,809$0$425,000$2,521,191
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,250,000$6,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$900,000$900,000
C
UFA - 2
$1,100,000$1,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 4
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:26 p.m.
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Seattle select Matt Murray ! So give up Lehky for 1 year of Murray ? Not happening but nice ( offersheet/trades )
Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:31 p.m.
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Seattle select Matt Murray ! So give up Lehky for 1 year of Murray ? Not happening but nice ( offersheet/trades )


whoever montreal acquired as a backup is at risk for seattle unless its one of those meh backups like kinkaid.
Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:32 p.m.
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Murray won’t sign that offer sheet, he will at leadt be making the same salary that he was making last deal with the increase of salary that rfa are supposed to get.
Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:33 p.m.
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If you can find a way to get Jankowski for less then is qualifying offer i will be impressed
Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:40 p.m.
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whoever montreal acquired as a backup is at risk for seattle unless its one of those meh backups like kinkaid.


Crawford Greiss are UFA
Mar. 28, 2020 at 8:42 p.m.
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Crawford Greiss are UFA


i dont see either leaving their teams greiss maybe the most likely of the 2 but chicago probs signs crawford on a 1 year deal
Mar. 28, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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Columbus probably accepts... but the prospect is a waste of a trade... he’s an UFA on June 1st and wouldn’t be part of any trade due to the draft being after June 1st. So you might as well just offersheet Anderson...
Mar. 28, 2020 at 9:35 p.m.
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i dont see either leaving their teams greiss maybe the most likely of the 2 but chicago probs signs crawford on a 1 year deal


Crawford could go home and get a 4M 1-2 year contract
Mar. 30, 2020 at 1:06 p.m.
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Murray won’t sign that offer sheet, he will at leadt be making the same salary that he was making last deal with the increase of salary that rfa are supposed to get.


show me this rule ?

i'll show you the decline in his play the breakout performances of Jarry and Desmith.
TBH of the 3 i want Murray the least of all but he's the only one PIT fans want gone period .
i trade for Jarry its a no , i trade for Desmith they want NHL Regular return for an AHL Call Up

What Murray did was ride MAF coat tailed and failed every year since he left.
lucky for us Price is on MAF level more or less which create's a chance for MTL to get a Back up who can play
If he doesnt pan out it doesnt matter because Seattle is likely to take him regardless as he's still a decent back up for whats left.

why do you think Murray deserves so much?
Last post i payed him 4.2m and while every single other person said the was overpaid you were insisting he'll get more ?
He's failed to take the starting position , PIT gave up their 3 time SC winning Goalie and havent made a Final since for choosing Murray.

It would be like if we traded Price to STL and Kept Halak
We'd regret it and see him as a constant reminder of what we gave up for a goalie who is barely top 20 in the NHL when he's playing his absolute best at his career highs

i'd get it if we were talking about a goalie who struggled a little but played good overall
but were talking about a guy who had the keys to the kingdom and played really poor hockey compared to his mentor before him
Insult to injury is that MAF has been to the Finals since while Murray shows he can handle the workload of being starter
Mar. 30, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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Seattle select Matt Murray ! So give up Lehky for 1 year of Murray ? Not happening but nice ( offersheet/trades )


Quoting: aadoyle
whoever montreal acquired as a backup is at risk for seattle unless its one of those meh backups like kinkaid.


Noooooo , reallly?

..... Kind of the Whole F'n Point

And what does it cost us again ?

A Player we will NOT Protect in Lehkonen
A Player a per MB only 1/4 prospects including Mcshane will be with us after July 1st when they need to be qualified(Hillis is the 1/4 i have no doubt)
A 3rd round pick (wow thats a lot right ?)

Or a 2nd round pick and we keep Lehkonen and Murray who will likely be chosen in the expansion
We get to protect Fleury ,Mete and Evans by proxy who were not on the protected list

If we lose Murray in either scenario the price we pay is worth it to keep Mete alone
Mar. 30, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.
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Crawford Greiss are UFA


name the last time a UFA in Net worth a crap signed here
It never happens as MTL always brings on guys in deals like Thibault,Auld,Absicher,or Hackett then re-signs
Undrafted we found Plante , in a trade for used parts we got Dryden because he wanted 4 years for NCAA and BOS said no, we even got Roy by trading Robert Pickard to WPG

UFA's will never be the solution for MTL and Goaltending
Everytime we went that route we had horrible seasons
Mar. 30, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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show me this rule ?

i'll show you the decline in his play the breakout performances of Jarry and Desmith.
TBH of the 3 i want Murray the least of all but he's the only one PIT fans want gone period .
i trade for Jarry its a no , i trade for Desmith they want NHL Regular return for an AHL Call Up

What Murray did was ride MAF coat tailed and failed every year since he left.
lucky for us Price is on MAF level more or less which create's a chance for MTL to get a Back up who can play
If he doesnt pan out it doesnt matter because Seattle is likely to take him regardless as he's still a decent back up for whats left.

why do you think Murray deserves so much?
Last post i payed him 4.2m and while every single other person said the was overpaid you were insisting he'll get more ?
He's failed to take the starting position , PIT gave up their 3 time SC winning Goalie and havent made a Final since for choosing Murray.

It would be like if we traded Price to STL and Kept Halak
We'd regret it and see him as a constant reminder of what we gave up for a goalie who is barely top 20 in the NHL when he's playing his absolute best at his career highs

i'd get it if we were talking about a goalie who struggled a little but played good overall
but were talking about a guy who had the keys to the kingdom and played really poor hockey compared to his mentor before him
Insult to injury is that MAF has been to the Finals since while Murray shows he can handle the workload of being starter


https://fr.capfriendly.com/qualifying-offer-calculator/matt-murray1

This is the rule so basically Pittsburgh just have to deposit a qualify offer and he will have right to arbitration who he will make at least the same amount he was making. That have nothing to donwith is average play or recent performance this is just cba rules
Mar. 30, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Noooooo , reallly?

..... Kind of the Whole F'n Point

And what does it cost us again ?

A Player we will NOT Protect in Lehkonen
A Player a per MB only 1/4 prospects including Mcshane will be with us after July 1st when they need to be qualified(Hillis is the 1/4 i have no doubt)
A 3rd round pick (wow thats a lot right ?)

Or a 2nd round pick and we keep Lehkonen and Murray who will likely be chosen in the expansion
We get to protect Fleury ,Mete and Evans by proxy who were not on the protected list

If we lose Murray in either scenario the price we pay is worth it to keep Mete alone


Forwards : Domi Drouin Kotkaniemi Lehkonen Byron Evans Gallagher Def : Weber Fleury Mete G : Price UFA who doesn’t need to be protect : Petry Danault Tatar Armia Players available for Seattle : Chiarot Juulsen Kulak Vejdemo ( so probably Chiarot )
 
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