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Ristolainen Who would say no Please give your reason as well

Created by: gretzkyghosts
Initial Creation Date: Mar 29, 2020
Published: Mar 29 at 4:35 pm
Team: 2019-20 Vegas Golden Knights
Trades
VGK
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Smith, C.J.
BUF
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. 2020 1st round pick (VGK)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tomas Tatar: $500,000 (9%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
VGK
NJD
VGK
VGK
2021
VGK
VGK
NJD
WPG
CAR
VGK
VGK
2022
VGK
VGK
VGK
VGK
VGK
BUF
VGK
VGK
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$84,020,000$0$1,720,000-$2,520,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
VGK
Pacioretty, Max
$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
VGK
Stastny, Paul
$6,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
VGK
Stone, Mark
$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
VGK
Marchessault, Jonathan
$5,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
VGK
Karlsson, William
$5,900,000
C
UFA - 8
VGK
Smith, Reilly
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
VGK
Stephenson, Chandler
$1,050,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
VGK
Nosek, Tomas
$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
VGK
Reaves, Ryan
$2,775,000
RW
UFA - 1
VGK
Carrier, William
$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
VGK
Roy, Nicolas
$720,000
C
RFA - 1
VGK
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Smith, C.J.
$700,000
LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
VGK
Theodore, Shea
$5,200,000
LD
UFA - 6
VGK
Schmidt, Nate
$5,950,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
VGK
Fleury, Marc-André
$7,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
VGK
McNabb, Brayden
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
VGK
Martinez, Alec
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
VGK
Lehner, Robin
$1,400,000
G
UFA - 1
VGK
Merrill, Jon
$1,375,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
VGK
Holden, Nick
$2,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
VGK
Whitecloud, Zach
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
VGK
Engelland, Deryk
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Mar 29 at 4:37
#1
Banned
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Overpayment. Tuch, Risto 1 for 1 should be the minimum
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Mar 29 at 4:37
#2
Laffy will be a hab
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Im not a fan of either team but there is absolutely zero chance for VGK to make that deal
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Mar 29 at 4:44
#3
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Quoting: Leafsfan34
Overpayment. Tuch, Risto 1 for 1 should be the minimum


Quoting: math731
Im not a fan of either team but there is absolutely zero chance for VGK to make that deal


Great feedback.
I think you are both correct. I saw this trade and wanted to get more feedback.
I think VKN are the wrong team. Buffalo needs a RW, or #2 C. Do you know of any team who may want a RHD and willing to trade a RW to get him?
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Mar 29 at 4:46
#4
MisstheWhalers
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Vegas definitely declines, Tuch is locked up for 6 more seasons, there definitely shouldn't be a 1st round pick involved but I could see Buffalo maybe sending a 2nd or 3rd to make up for the vast difference in term between the two, or perhaps a pick swap would be the way to go, like Ristolainen and a 2nd for Tuch and a 5th.
I just don't see dmen having this massive value as others do.
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Mar 29 at 4:49
#5
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vegas definitely declines, Tuch is locked up for 6 more seasons, there definitely shouldn't be a 1st round pick involved but I could see Buffalo maybe sending a 2nd or 3rd to make up for the vast difference in term between the two, or perhaps a pick swap would be the way to go, like Ristolainen and a 2nd for Tuch and a 5th.
I just don't see dmen having this massive value as others do.


100%. I was just going to post "Tuch for Ristolainen and a second is right because Tuch is signed for 4 more years."
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Mar 29 at 4:51
#6
First NY Then LA
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Great feedback.
I think you are both correct. I saw this trade and wanted to get more feedback.
I think VKN are the wrong team. Buffalo needs a RW, or #2 C. Do you know of any team who may want a RHD and willing to trade a RW to get him?


You don't think that Cody Glass is going to be the #3 C next season?
Mar 29 at 4:56
#7
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Great feedback.
I think you are both correct. I saw this trade and wanted to get more feedback.
I think VKN are the wrong team. Buffalo needs a RW, or #2 C. Do you know of any team who may want a RHD and willing to trade a RW to get him?


Carolina might. It would be hard to get Hamilton or Pesce. I think signing someone like Brodie would be better
Mar 29 at 5:01
#8
Go Wings Go
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Noway is Ristolainen+Smith worth Tuch+1st Tuch and Ristolainen have the same value. Smith sure as hell isn't worth a 1st.
Mar 29 at 5:08
#9
Leafs GM v4
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Vegas. They should be smart enough to know hes not an nhl player at this point
Mar 29 at 5:08
#10
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Vegas says no. Maybe ristolainen for touch straight up
Mar 29 at 7:50
#11
bang bang
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ristolanian is horrible .. I wouldn't even want that contract for free
May 14 at 12:30
#12
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It wouldn’t happen the way u have the deal constructed

For the Risto haters out there, JUST STOP
There are GMs out there who like him, and some who don’t
Obviously a team that trades for him will VALUE him & not think he sucks like you do
So we’d get a good return for him, or he simply wouldn’t be traded

That said, with this deal...
Cj Smith can’t be a part of it, not without something more added
Risto is obviously worth more than Tuch who struggled this season, but not + a 1st
Risto is worth a 1st, but not + Tuch

So as i see it...
that 1st either has to become a 2nd
Or Smith has to be swapped out with a better piece like Thompson, Asplund, etc

Risto = 1st
Tage/Asplund = Tuch (considering the Cap hit difference)
We’d probably still have to add a 3rd to make it work though,
or maybe Smith if they like him?
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