Bringing back Hall at a discount is it a mistake

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Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 31, 2020

Published: Mar. 31, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bear, Ethan		2	$2,500,000
Athanasiou, Andreas		3	$3,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Sheahan, Riley	2	$1,500,000
Smith, Mike	1	$1,750,000
Richardson, Brad	1	$900,000
Weber, Yannick	1	$800,000
Haas, Gaëtan	1	$700,000
Hall, Taylor	5	$8,500,000

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Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$82,041,032	$341,534	$730,000	$458,968

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 6	Kassian, Zack $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 4
Hall, Taylor $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Yamamoto, Kailer $894,166$894,166 ($230,000$230K) RW RFA - 1
Athanasiou, Andreas $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Sheahan, Riley $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Khaira, Jujhar $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C UFA - 1		Chiasson, Alex $2,150,000$2,150,000 RW UFA - 1
	Richardson, Brad $900,000$900,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 3	Larsson, Adam $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 1	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 2	Bear, Ethan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Jones, Caleb $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) RD RFA - 3	Smith, Mike $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Haas, Gaëtan $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1
Weber, Yannick $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Nygård, Joakim $875,000$875,000 LW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Chiasson, A.		Draisaitl, L.		McDavid, C.
	Bouchard, E.		Nugent-Hopkins, R.

Power Play 2
Hall, T.		Draisaitl, L.		McDavid, C.
	Yamamoto, K.		Klefbom, O.

Penalty Kill 1
	Sheahan, R.	Archibald, J.
	Klefbom, O.	Larsson, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Richardson, B.	Khaira, J.
	Nurse, D.	Bear, E.

Mar. 31, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.

Leafsfan34

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I'd be surprised if he took less than 9mil

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 3:54 p.m.

Cdn_bacon

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Quoting: Leafsfan34

I'd be surprised if he took less than 9mil

I wouldn't. He's either is on a line with this years Hart and Art Ross winner or the best player on the planet.

Mar. 31, 2020 at 3:59 p.m.

CD282

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The question is: is $8.5M actually a discount?

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:05 p.m.

OilersNation

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Yes it would, but another big mistake would be is thinking Riley Sheahan is a 3rd line line centre.

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.

ConnorMcHellebucyk

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Switch Hall and RNH

Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.

Silkysmooth42

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Quoting: AH96

I wouldn't. He's either is on a line with this years Hart and Art Ross winner or the best player on the planet.

? Thats not the same person,

Thats ___ or Mcdavid

Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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At that price and term no, anymore $$ or years and it's probably not gonna be worth it.

Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Why would Taylor Hall want anything to do with Edmonton after how he was run out of town and why would he take a discount in his last chance to get big bucks?

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.

Jfstompers

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I'm not a fan of hall and 8.5 million is more than I think he's worth. He probably gets it but not from me

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.

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mk458

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If he's willing to take a discount it might actually be worth the risk. No doubt that Hall is a very effective top line winger when he's healthy and on his game. If he's willing to take a discount like 8 or 8.5 million I would definitely take that risk. But if he wants 10 million let someone else make that mistake

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.

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coga16

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I really dont see Hall coming back to Edmonton, but if it would, its bc the team over paid for him

Him coming back and taking a discount would be a shocker with how things ended with him the first time, I dont think he would willingly leave money on the table and have to deal with the Edmonton media and fan base who ran him out of town and ran his name through the mud when he was traded

Mar. 31, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Why would Taylor Hall want anything to do with Edmonton after how he was run out of town and why would he take a discount in his last chance to get big bucks?

exactly my thought to...take a discount to go back to the place that the media and fan base villainized him...dont see that happening

Mar. 31, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.

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Claesson4Norris

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Or you could use that money to add two.or three guys to add bottom six scoring, which is not present In this lineup.

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.

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kafle22

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i wouldnt sign him, he's a curse plus you can spend his money better on a backup goalie and a decent winger

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Or you could use that money to add two.or three guys to add bottom six scoring, which is not present In this lineup.

Quoting: kafle22

i wouldnt sign him, he's a curse plus you can spend his money better on a backup goalie and a decent winger

Yup. A better backup (Greiss / Halak?), a 3C and a winger would make for a more substantial summer's work.

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Mar. 31, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.

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It is hard to see where Hall would fit in the lineup. He had zero chemistry with McDavid and it's hard to imagine a line better than RNH/Draisaitl/Yamamoto. Plus Hall is constantly injured and will cost a fortune to sign. 100% agree that signing a legit 3C would be the way to spend salary cap.

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