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Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 31, 2020
Published: Mar. 31, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$883,333
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,450,000
3$3,175,000
4$4,850,000
3$2,000,000
1$760,000
1$880,000
2$700,000
2$780,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,275,000
2$3,475,000
2$750,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    CBA - he later inks with NSH on a cheaper contract
    2.
    PIT
    1. Larsson, Adam
    2. Marody, Cooper
    3. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
    3.
    EDM
    1. 2021 5th round pick (CHI)
    4.
    EDM
    1. 2020 4th round pick (SJS)
    CGY
    1. Russell, Kris ($2,000,000 retained)
    5.
    MTL
    1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
    Additional Details:
    If JP does not sign by the trade deadline 2021, MTL gets a 2021 3rd
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    2021
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    2022
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the EDM
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,749,366$341,534$730,000-$249,366
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $12,500,000$12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $3,475,000$3,475,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $2,150,000$2,150,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $875,000$875,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $1,275,000$1,275,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $5,600,000$5,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $3,175,000$3,175,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $4,850,000$4,850,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,167,000$4,167,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $850,000$850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    $850,000$850,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $750,000$750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2

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    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:07 p.m.
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    The question is why would PIT acquire Larsson when they have Letang and Marino on their top4 RD (assuming Schultz walks)
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    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    The question is why would PIT acquire Larsson when they have Letang and Marino on their top4 RD (assuming Schultz walks)


    I thought Marino was a Right shot that played left side? Larsson really replaces Schultz, but on a cheaper contract. PIT seems to be trending away from Murray due to the contract he may request.
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:29 p.m.
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    Why in the world would Chicago do that? How will they sign Strome/Kubalik/Crawford and all their others guys while taking cap?
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan34
    Why in the world would Chicago do that? How will they sign Strome/Kubalik/Crawford and all their others guys while taking cap?


    This thread assumes buyout. If that's the case, Seabrook and his near-7M cap is gone. They won't have a hard time bringing them all back if that is the case.
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:32 p.m.
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    Can't see Holland moving Larsson with just Bouchard as the replacement don't think he will want Bouchard rushed into top 4. Might be ready but might and not gambling with top 4D is risky can easily cost your team the year. AA contract also makes no sense like 1M overpay if you look at Kapanen/Johnsson contracts and point production
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    Can't see Holland moving Larsson with just Bouchard as the replacement don't think he will want Bouchard rushed into top 4. Might be ready but might and not gambling with top 4D is risky can easily cost your team the year. AA contract also makes no sense like 1M overpay if you look at Kapanen/Johnsson contracts and point production


    Alright, then we can cut the 1M off and release sbisa and sign a better RHD instead, Pysyk is in that range.
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:40 p.m.
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    Alright, then we can cut the 1M off and release sbisa and sign a better RHD instead, Pysyk is in that range.


    Sounds reasonable and he is from EDM so likely to sign
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:50 p.m.
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    I'm guessing you meant CBO (Compliance Buy Out) not CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).
    Anyways, on to the trades:
    - Pittsburgh doesn't entertain that and Murray doesn't sign that contract either.
    - I guess you can get a 5th for Khaira from someone. Probably not Chicago though
    - Calgary doesn't want Russel. That's why Treliving traded him in the first place
    - Montreal trade seems fine
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    Mar. 31, 2020 at 9:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I'm guessing you meant CBO (Compliance Buy Out) not CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).
    Anyways, on to the trades:
    - Pittsburgh doesn't entertain that and Murray doesn't sign that contract either.
    - I guess you can get a 5th for Khaira from someone. Probably not Chicago though
    - Calgary doesn't want Russel. That's why Treliving traded him in the first place
    - Montreal trade seems fine


    Yeah, LOL I meant CBO.

    I'm confused why PIT would want more for a mediocre goalie who is only best known for his first two playoff performances. Goalies rarely get their actual value too and are often short sold. I guess I could add slightly? Marody could be a solid 3rd line center for PIT in a few years.
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 10:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    I thought Marino was a Right shot that played left side? Larsson really replaces Schultz, but on a cheaper contract. PIT seems to be trending away from Murray due to the contract he may request.


    Would need to confirm with PIT fans but he's right-handed and believe he only played their because Schultz was activated/Dumoulin injured. Expect Dumoulin-Letang, Pettersson-Marino as top4
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    I thought Marino was a Right shot that played left side? Larsson really replaces Schultz, but on a cheaper contract. PIT seems to be trending away from Murray due to the contract he may request.


    we had Marino on the left playing with Tanger because we had a ton of injuries on the left, he usually plays right
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 10:42 p.m.
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    Yeah, LOL I meant CBO.

    I'm confused why PIT would want more for a mediocre goalie who is only best known for his first two playoff performances. Goalies rarely get their actual value too and are often short sold. I guess I could add slightly? Marody could be a solid 3rd line center for PIT in a few years.


    well it's a couple things, Pittsburgh has contract control on Murray while Larsson is a pending UFA. Pittsburgh doesn't need RD for their top 4, and Larsson is far to overpaid for the 3rd pair. Marody wont be better then McCann at 3C.
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 11:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    Can't see Holland moving Larsson with just Bouchard as the replacement don't think he will want Bouchard rushed into top 4. Might be ready but might and not gambling with top 4D is risky can easily cost your team the year. AA contract also makes no sense like 1M overpay if you look at Kapanen/Johnsson contracts and point production


    I thought the oilers knew better than to put young prospects right in the deep end
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 11:56 p.m.
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    Alright, then we can cut the 1M off and release sbisa and sign a better RHD instead, Pysyk is in that range.


    You could keep lagession cause the most he's making is 800k
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    Mar. 31, 2020 at 11:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I'm guessing you meant CBO (Compliance Buy Out) not CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement).
    Anyways, on to the trades:
    - Pittsburgh doesn't entertain that and Murray doesn't sign that contract either.
    - I guess you can get a 5th for Khaira from someone. Probably not Chicago though
    - Calgary doesn't want Russel. That's why Treliving traded him in the first place
    - Montreal trade seems fine


    Calgary didn't trade russell, they let him walk at FA, plus they are gonna lose I think 3 men in ufa so it's better to get one(but i do think some salary should be retained)
    Mar. 31, 2020 at 11:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    Yeah, LOL I meant CBO.

    I'm confused why PIT would want more for a mediocre goalie who is only best known for his first two playoff performances. Goalies rarely get their actual value too and are often short sold. I guess I could add slightly? Marody could be a solid 3rd line center for PIT in a few years.


    Marody isn't a good player because of his skating. His trajectory is a career ahler
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 12:37 a.m.
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    Mantha is blind and will never play hockey again. Also I like the Söderberg pickup
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    Apr. 1, 2020 at 1:23 a.m.
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    Calgary didn't trade russell, they let him walk at FA, plus they are gonna lose I think 3 men in ufa so it's better to get one(but i do think some salary should be retained)


    He was traded to Dallas, There are significantly better options out there then Russell anyways. Zero interest in giving up assets for him
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    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
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    Alright, then we can cut the 1M off and release sbisa and sign a better RHD instead, Pysyk is in that range.


    What do you see in Pysyk that makes you want to sign him? He's a vastly overpaid 3rd pairing defenseman.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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    Yeah, LOL I meant CBO.

    I'm confused why PIT would want more for a mediocre goalie who is only best known for his first two playoff performances. Goalies rarely get their actual value too and are often short sold. I guess I could add slightly? Marody could be a solid 3rd line center for PIT in a few years.


    If he's a mediocre goalie why do you have him as your starter? If he's mediocre, just sign a UFA who can split the starts with Koskinen and use your assets in another way.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 11:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: kafle22
    I thought the oilers knew better than to put young prospects right in the deep end


    It depends if they're ready or not. Bear jumped straight to 1RD in the 2nd game of his rookie year.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: kafle22
    Calgary didn't trade russell, they let him walk at FA, plus they are gonna lose I think 3 men in ufa so it's better to get one(but i do think some salary should be retained)


    Calgary is concerned about their actual cash spending, so maybe they're interested in Russell. Remember the Lucic-Neal trade? It seemed uneven at the time, but the real reason for it was because Lucic's contract was front-loaded, so the Flames saved $10M in cash by making that trade. And while Russell's $4M cap hit remains intact, after his July 1st bonus is paid out he is owed just $1.5M for the last season of his deal. That has some value - no retention needed.
     
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