Are you getting this Breent SayBrooke guy from the KHL? whats his potential?

Teams can’t buy out injured players

League won’t allow this

There won’t be a cbo either, this is just fans of teams in cap hell wet dreams

Teams can’t buy out injured players

League won’t allow this

There won’t be a cbo either, this is just fans of teams in cap hell wet dreams

Because of the bad timing, teams already had plans with cap. There could very well be 1 Cbo. Highly unlikely cap goes down, even doubt it stays flat!

What's stopping them? (CBO specifically) It's a great idea. It's not like any team planned for this situation and there are 20 teams with $80M+ in cap already. Heck, Daly said that cap would increase to $84-$88...but I see that being even less likely. The owners against CBOs like Melnyk...enjoy increasing the cap even less. I understand this doesn't help Colorado that much, but it helps the players, owners, and the majority of the league.

Something called the CBA, thats stopping them
You think you are goign to get the NHLPA to accept an emergency amendment to the CBA that only benefits the owners and not the players. There is nothing in it from the players side...guys get bought out and pushed out of the game to be replaced by younger ELC guys and would not give a team any time to player scout a bought out player to see if they would like to sign them for a cheaper contract giving them a 2nd chance. Nothing benefits the NHLPA here, so they wont agree to it.

Only way I can see them allowing this to happen is if they get something significant in the CBA they are negotiating, do they get the Olympics bc they agreed to a CBO....Owners and League have to pony something up for them to agree to it

People are really over estimating the cap situation bc of pandemic. The seasons isnt cancelled, it will resume at some point in time. Empty arena games (to begin with, they will eventually be allowed to have people attend) do not impact the league revenue dramatically, will impacts some playoff team owners or city revenue based on their lease agreements with their respective arenas. Games are still going to be broadcast on TV when they resume, NHL will still make money in a restart season.

The cap may flat line, wont drop dramatically 6m based on where its at now

Except there's a larger benefit to the players than the owners...and it's not even close too. The owners aren't looking to pay extra money out of charity...which is what would happen. Take just about ANY player. Seabrook is likely the single most egregious example...he's owed $20.5M over the next 4 years. 40% is his drop...so $8M is his loss. He'll likely be able to get a lot of that back because he's a UFA. He can get $2M per. BUT the real kicker is that the NHLPA needs to fight for all players....Hall, Pietrangelo, Krug...not just Seabrook. SO, from the NHLPA point of view...the players in general just got an extra $6.875M * 4 = $27.5M - $8M = $19.5M. That's how the NHLPA would look at this. They've going to take an OVERALL viewpoint...that the NHL players will gain money in the aggregate by this move.

Also, the NHLPA knows that they have zero ability to move the cap up/down. That's based on revenue…so, they only have one option to better their clients position. They're going to advocate for this. It's the OWNERS that don't like CBOs. Owners like Melnyk have been vocal about being against CBOs. Why? Because the players win anytime a CBO is offered. It's free money.

Let's go back to the OTHER players like Pietrangelo, or even more important...they guys like Scandella or Hainsey. They're no more OR LESS important to the NHLPA than Seabrook. The likelihood that Pietrangelo gets his true value are ZERO. The likelihood that Scandella or Hainsey play in the NHL next year...hard to see that happening.

the NHLPA has a big part of the cap, they have the ability to inflate it based on their escrow amount. Right there just shows a major flaw in your thinking. Its not a 1 person dance with a CBO.

Its not happening, the CBO really is just a wet dream for cap strapped teams, I get it youre a hawks fan and you hope this happens to get out of that contract. But the league is not going to allow this and neither is the NHLPA.

The CBA is expiring in September 2020, they arent goign to amend it for a buyout now right before they need to extend it, they allow this CBA to run its course, and they will do whatever they have to do in the next one for the offseason of 2021 to deal with cap issues if anything

BOTH the NHLPA and NHL owners agreed to not opt out. So...Not sure what you're talking about with the expiring CBA... That decision was made on September 1st 2019. So it's 2022. That's why an amendment is needed in the 1st place. AND the NHL gets the last say in the Cap Ceiling.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/9/16/20869079/nhl-nhlpa-collective-bargaining-agreement
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2019/09/16/nhl-players-stay-with-cba-labor-peace-set-to-at-least-2022/40158611/

If you're opinion is that it won't happen. That's fine. It's just like to use facts and talk about how these things would affect each side. The FACT is...it's really is a win win. No team planned for this. AND if Sakic played his cards right...I would think COL could be the biggest winner of all. Melnyk isn't CBOing anyone. Not ever and certainly not Bobby Ryan. That's $9M he won't have to spend on Bobby Ryan AND AN ADDITIONAL $14.5M to replace his cap hit. This isn't an insurance policy like Callahan. COL is one of the FEW teams that doesn't really have any buyout candidates. I'd be willing to be ALOT that OTT would send over Shane Pinto and one of their 12,000 picks for COL to Pay $9M over 4 years and it would have zero affect on COL's cap too.

youre also overlooking a big component int his....expansion draft.

having. CBO prior to teams needing to create their protection list would majority impact the quality of team Seattle could pick. They are not going to allow teams to exploit the CBO which sets Seattle off on the wrong foot

There are just way to many factors in play here, a CBO would be the last thing the NHL and NHLPA would agree to.

Maybe I'm overlooking something. Sure that could be true, but I don't think this example is one of them. Jerry Bruckheimer didn't plan for COVID-19 unless you have other news you want to share. He technically doesn't even have a vote right now...AND technically has zero players. So I don't think the NHLPA is going to make decisions off non-existent players and I don't think the owners are going to vote based on people that don't currently have any votes.

You're 100% correct that there are A LOT of things that would need to happen. Should be helpful that we've already done this once before.

What if the cap went down organically which it can, do you think the league would allow CBOs then? No they wouldnt

I'm not saying you're wrong here. I just don't think this situation applies to the situation we're in. There's a real reason here. It's not just a little loss in revenue because less fans are watching/buying tickets.