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2021 if Petro walks

Created by: A_K
Team: 2021-22 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 1, 2020
Published: Apr. 1, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Just bored and seeing what the money might look like
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$815,000
3$815,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$4,600,000
2$2,750,000
1$1,250,000
1$950,000
1$2,000,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
8$7,500,000
1$800,000
1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$6,500,000
2$2,750,000
4$6,000,000
1$3,000,000
Trades
STL
    Seattle Expansion
    ANA
    1. Sanford, Zachary [RFA Rights]
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the STL
    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$84,500,000$74,182,182$306,349$1,725,000$10,317,818
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    C, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $1,875,000$1,875,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,300,000$1M)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $1,375,000$1,375,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $950,000$950,000
    C, LW
    UFA
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $787,500$787,500
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.
    #1
    Isles7
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    Andersen over binnington?
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:38 p.m.
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    Sam
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    It all seems realistic, I think Anton Anderson quit hockey though.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles777
    Andersen over binnington?


    I have a feeling that Binnington might explore his options. I don't have any actual information, but it's easy to forget that the Blues org. pretty much gave up on him until a complete catastrophe of a season gave him a shot, out of the blue. And then he signed a 2-yr deal to take him to UFA. I don't really know where things will stand when extension talks start. Would be fine giving either Freddie or Binner a 4 yr deal.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: STLBlues17
    It all seems realistic, I think Anton Anderson quit hockey though.


    Damn, didn't know that. I just saw we'd have to sign him to keep his rights so I hit the button. That's a shame.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:51 p.m.
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    Isles7
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    Quoting: A_K
    I have a feeling that Binnington might explore his options. I don't have any actual information, but it's easy to forget that the Blues org. pretty much gave up on him until a complete catastrophe of a season gave him a shot, out of the blue. And then he signed a 2-yr deal to take him to UFA. I don't really know where things will stand when extension talks start. Would be fine giving either Freddie or Binner a 4 yr deal.


    Oh right I forgot about that. He’ll probably want a 7 year deal and giving that to a 29 year old G is risky. It might cost 7 x 4 to lock up Anderson (he’ll be 31) but less term is better
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    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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    Oh right I forgot about that. He’ll probably want a 7 year deal and giving that to a 29 year old G is risky. It might cost 7 x 4 to lock up Anderson (he’ll be 31) but less term is better


    Yeah that's the other part. Binner hasn't really gotten a big pay-day and I'm really wary about giving goalies that much term if he asks for it. Would def opt for a 4 yr max on a goalie, even if that means a higher AAV.
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    Apr. 1, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.
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    The cap is guaranteed to go down next season. So, it will probably be lower for your roster as well. Plus, I think Dunn would want at least $5M.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 11:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: earl08
    The cap is guaranteed to go down next season. So, it will probably be lower for your roster as well. Plus, I think Dunn would want at least $5M.


    You would guarantee that next year's cap will be lower than this year's? Where are you getting this from? It will be lower than their original projections (84-88m) but I can't see them taking it down from 81.5, and if they do there would be some other compliance maneuvers allowed. I was guessing that next year will be about 82m and 2021-22 would be around 84-85m.
    Apr. 1, 2020 at 11:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: A_K
    You would guarantee that next year's cap will be lower than this year's? Where are you getting this from? It will be lower than their original projections (84-88m) but I can't see them taking it down from 81.5, and if they do there would be some other compliance maneuvers allowed. I was guessing that next year will be about 82m and 2021-22 would be around 84-85m.


    We'll know for sure in two months. Let's see how well these guesses age
    Apr. 2, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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    Good Opinion Haver
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    Quoting: A_K
    You would guarantee that next year's cap will be lower than this year's? Where are you getting this from? It will be lower than their original projections (84-88m) but I can't see them taking it down from 81.5, and if they do there would be some other compliance maneuvers allowed. I was guessing that next year will be about 82m and 2021-22 would be around 84-85m.


    It's definitely not a guarantee, but it's more likely than people seem to want to admit. A guy in a Tampa thread jumped down my throat when I mentioned it as a possibility.

    You probably know this already, but for people who don't, the cap numbers is based off of a formula- it's a 50/50 revenue split between players and owners, so the average cap number comes in at half the revenue divided by 31, and then there's a percentage that dictates the floor and the ceiling. The players can use a cap escalator if they want, but they usually don't because they could lose money in that scenario if the revenue for the following season isn't as high as they think it will be.

    Even if there are playoffs, the ramifications of losing approximately 150 regular season games in a league that profits largely via gate revenue (unlike the other leagues with lucrative TV and marketing deals) is going to be tough to swallow for teams that are barely profitable as it is. With the revenue being a 50-50 split for owners and players, I think it's almost a certainty that based on the CBA's formula alone, the cap is going down this year. I think it's unlikely that they USE said formula this year, especially if there aren't playoffs, because that devastates pretty much all teams, so they'll have to agree on another number. However, any number higher than the CBA formula's number means the owners will be ceding more money to the players than the owners themselves will be getting. Call me a pessimist, but I'm not holding my breath that the guys who are barely paying their arena workers right now(and not all of them are doing that) are going to be raring to give up more money to the players after they shut down the league twice in the last twenty years over pretty much this exact argument.

    I think your projection of a flat cap this year and then going up to 84 million next year is realistic. Hopefully the economy recovers enough that the league doesn't lose money next year.
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