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Crazy Idea that will never happen

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Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 2, 2020
Published: Apr. 2, 2020
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Florida has been instructed to cut $10M from their payroll. That reminds me of a certain goalie signed for $10M for 7 yrs. Maybe Bobrovsky goes to Seattle. Anyway Hoffman and Dadonov probably won't be resigned, Stralman and Yandle are getting older, and Huberdeau and Barkov won't be cheap for ever. The Atlantic is top-heavy, but they do have a shot until Toronto gets it together, or another team emerges. But if things go sideways for Florida, would they blow it up and start over?
These trades will never happen and trading their two star forwards on some of the best discount contracts in the NHL isn't in the cards, but I obviously just had a crazy idea.
JJ and Bjugstad are dumped, and Hornqvist is bought out.
We officially have no good picks or prospects left, save PO Joseph, who I kept because he might be ready soon for the #3LHD spot.
Trade values of Prospects:
Barkov-#1C
for
Poulin(1st)
2021 1st
2021 2nd
Murray(25-yr-old 2-time SC winning goalie. And he wasn't anywhere near as bad as Bobs this year so just chill.)
Almeida(111 points in 64 gms. in WHL)
Almari(Finnish puck-moving D-man[5th])

Huberdeau(#1LW)
for
2022 1st
Hallander(2nd)
Bjorkvist(2nd)
2022 2nd
Legare(steal in 3rd)
2020 4th
2022 4th
Drozg(5th)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
3$3,000,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$1,250,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
Trades
1.
FLA
  1. Almari, Niclas
  2. Almeida, Justin
  3. Murray, Matt [RFA Rights]
  4. Poulin, Samuel
  5. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. Bjugstad, Nick
  3. Johnson, Jack
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2021 5th round pick (PIT)
  6. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
3.
FLA
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper
  2. Drozg, Jan
  3. Hållander, Filip
  4. Légaré, Nathan
  5. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
  6. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
  7. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
  8. 2022 4th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the PIT
2021
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the OTT
2022
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,500,000$81,616,842$0$850,000$2,883,158
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$800,000$800,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2

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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:01 p.m.
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I know this will never happen, but if Florida blew it up, what would we have to give up to get a star?
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:05 p.m.
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Great now Florida is gonna have to move to Quebec because they are going to have no fans
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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I know this will never happen, but if Florida blew it up, what would we have to give up to get a star?


If Florida rebuilds, Huberdeau will more likely be moved cuz Barkov is their franchise player & would cost way too much. To land Huberdeau, I’m thinking Murray, Poulin, Legare, Joseph & 2 1st Round picks might be enough. But Florida probably wants more.
Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
If Florida rebuilds, Huberdeau will more likely be moved cuz Barkov is their franchise player & would cost way too much. To land Huberdeau, I’m thinking Murray, Poulin, Legare, Joseph & 2 1st Round picks might be enough. But Florida probably wants more.


Huberdeau would be traded before Barkov imo. He would cost 2 roster players, 2 prospects (one A level, 1 B+) and a 1st round pick. Something like McCann, Pettersson, Legare, Hallander and a 1st
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.
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Huberdeau would be traded before Barkov imo. He would cost 2 roster players, 2 prospects (one A level, 1 B+) and a 1st round pick. Something like McCann, Pettersson, Legare, Hallander and a 1st


That’s not too bad, though FLA probably doesn’t want McCann back cuz he stunk there. Simon is more likely.
Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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That’s not too bad, though FLA probably doesn’t want McCann back cuz he stunk there. Simon is more likely.


yeah I know but I'm just showing the value
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
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Jesus that Bobrovsky signing was a disaster, might even be what finally gets Tallon fired. If they would've just signed Lehner for a year they'd probably be in a playoff spot right now
Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:30 p.m.
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laugh laugh Pittsburgh doesn't have the pieces to get either Barkov or Huberdeau, That trash sure doesn't cut it. Quality for quantity instead of quality for quality.
Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
If Florida rebuilds, Huberdeau will more likely be moved cuz Barkov is their franchise player & would cost way too much. To land Huberdeau, I’m thinking Murray, Poulin, Legare, Joseph & 2 1st Round picks might be enough. But Florida probably wants more.


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Huberdeau would be traded before Barkov imo. He would cost 2 roster players, 2 prospects (one A level, 1 B+) and a 1st round pick. Something like McCann, Pettersson, Legare, Hallander and a 1st


yeah, I agree, it would cost a ton. If this "completely random/never gonna happen) Huberdeau trade happened after next year, maybe FLA would try to dump Bobs on Seattle. Then they might be a destination for Murray or Jarry. Agree they wouldn't want McCann back, and GMJR probably wouldn't give up Petterson. In this offseason though a package look like: A couple NHL pieces(Rust/Simon/Blueger type), a couple prospects(Poulin/Legare/Hallander) and a 1st. Florida's D and goalie could use help, but outside of Riikola, I don't see a decent D-man we could part with without having to find a replacement. Would they like DeSmith to backup Bobs? doubt it.
Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Pittsburgh doesn't have the pieces to get either Barkov or Huberdeau, That trash sure doesn't cut it. Quality for quantity instead of quality for quality.


Did you read the title?
And thanks for defining all our picks, all our prospects, and our starting goalie(who was better than Bobs this year) as trash. Patrick Alvin really appreciates that. You obviously know nothing of the Penguins prospects.
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.
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yeah, I agree, it would cost a ton. If this "completely random/never gonna happen) Huberdeau trade happened after next year, maybe FLA would try to dump Bobs on Seattle. Then they might be a destination for Murray or Jarry. Agree they wouldn't want McCann back, and GMJR probably wouldn't give up Petterson. In this offseason though a package look like: A couple NHL pieces(Rust/Simon/Blueger type), a couple prospects(Poulin/Legare/Hallander) and a 1st. Florida's D and goalie could use help, but outside of Riikola, I don't see a decent D-man we could part with without having to find a replacement. Would they like DeSmith to backup Bobs? doubt it.


Huberdeau to Vegas for Tuch + Hague + Krebs + 1st would be pretty cool
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 1:41 p.m.
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Huberdeau to Vegas for Tuch + Hague + Krebs + 1st would be pretty cool


They're capstrapped as well so they could use a steal of a contract.
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Apr. 2, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
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I know this will never happen, but if Florida blew it up, what would we have to give up to get a star?


If Pittsburgh were to acquire one of them, Huberdeau would most likely be the target but it would cost Bjugstad, Poulin, POJ and 2021 1st and that's to just get into the door. In my opinion, the Penguins don't have all the pieces to grab either of them especially since they acquired Zucker, it would be way cheaper to sign one of Hoffman or Dadonov.
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If Pittsburgh were to acquire one of them, Huberdeau would most likely be the target but it would cost Bjugstad, Poulin, POJ and 2021 1st and that's to just get into the door. In my opinion, the Penguins don't have all the pieces to grab either of them especially since they acquired Zucker, it would be way cheaper to sign one of Hoffman or Dadonov.


I offered Tuch, Krebs, Hague and a 1st and people said it wasn't enough. I wonder if something like Byram, Kaut and a pick is enough
Apr. 2, 2020 at 2:39 p.m.
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If Pittsburgh were to acquire one of them, Huberdeau would most likely be the target but it would cost Bjugstad, Poulin, POJ and 2021 1st and that's to just get into the door. In my opinion, the Penguins don't have all the pieces to grab either of them especially since they acquired Zucker, it would be way cheaper to sign one of Hoffman or Dadonov.


I don't think FLA would take Bjugstad back. Either way, the 1st in nonnegotiable, and 2 of Poulin/legare/Joseph/hallander/bjorkvist, then 1-3 NHL assets. I agree about Hoffman and Dadonov, but personally I don't like either as a target for the pens. They have offense for sure, but do they have defensive responsibility, speed, and the ability to fit the pens system? Yes, I agree, though...the title literally is "never gonna happen" lol and it would take most of the little we have in our system to get another top-6 wing. Free agency is the best option. I still think Craig Smith from Nashville is the best option for the Pens.
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laugh laugh Pittsburgh doesn't have the pieces to get either Barkov or Huberdeau, That trash sure doesn't cut it. Quality for quantity instead of quality for quality.


Okay let’s settle down. While that package certainly doesn’t get Barkov or huberdeau, we’re not sending “trash”. Those pieces have value, it’s just not enough to land Barkov or Huberdeau
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Okay let’s settle down. While that package certainly doesn’t get Barkov or huberdeau, we’re not sending “trash”. Those pieces have value, it’s just not enough to land Barkov or Huberdeau


Agree.
In an obviously theoretical sense, what in your opinion, would it take to land Huberdeau?
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I offered Tuch, Krebs, Hague and a 1st and people said it wasn't enough. I wonder if something like Byram, Kaut and a pick is enough


Gotta think they would want another young forward.
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Agree.
In an obviously theoretical sense, what in your opinion, would it take to land Huberdeau?


Pens just don’t have the assets Florida is looking for. They’d be looking for an already proven young forward: pens don’t have this other than McCann but Florida traded him once.

Another top 6 Winger: Rust?
Maybe a Top 4 LHD: Petterson?
And a combo of picks/prospects.

It just doesn’t make sense for pit
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Pens just don’t have the assets Florida is looking for. They’d be looking for an already proven young forward:

Maybe McCann?
Another top 6 Winger: Rust?
Maybe a Top 4 LHD: Petterson?
And a combo of picks/prospects.

It just doesn’t make sense for pit


Oh I agree, the only way to not majorly affect the current roster is trade way too many prospects and picks. And Rust, Pettersson, Marino, McCann, etc. Aren’t at all the trade chips GMJR would want to give up. It would strengthen LW(which is already good) and weaken everything else.
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I know this will never happen, but if Florida blew it up, what would we have to give up to get a star?


Quoting: Pens3lieve
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I know this will never happen, but if Florida blew it up, what would we have to give up to get a star?


I feel like it'd take a great player from our team plus. So for example, instead of giving up 8 pieces to get one player, a package of 3 (with all significant pieces) would be better. That would include Guentzel, Marino, Murray/Jarry, 1st round, and then maybe Poulin, depending on how they see him.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 1:43 a.m.
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I feel like it'd take a great player from our team plus. So for example, instead of giving up 8 pieces to get one player, a package of 3 (with all significant pieces) would be better. That would include Guentzel, Marino, Murray/Jarry, 1st round, and then maybe Poulin, depending on how they see him.


no way pens trade all that for either player. thats insane. Florida may want Jake but the convo stops there.
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I feel like it'd take a great player from our team plus. So for example, instead of giving up 8 pieces to get one player, a package of 3 (with all significant pieces) would be better. That would include Guentzel, Marino, Murray/Jarry, 1st round, and then maybe Poulin, depending on how they see him.


Guentzel is the best player being traded in this delusional nonsense. The penguins would never do that.
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 1:52 a.m.
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no way pens trade all that for either player. thats insane. Florida may want Jake but the convo stops there.


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Guentzel is the best player being traded in this delusional nonsense. The penguins would never do that.


That's why stuff like this is unrealistic. I wouldn't do the trade either, but I don't see Florida budging unless one of those names are brought up
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no way pens trade all that for either player. thats insane. Florida may want Jake but the convo stops there.


Quoting: pharrow
Guentzel is the best player being traded in this delusional nonsense. The penguins would never do that.


Quoting: NoWah49
That's why stuff like this is unrealistic. I wouldn't do the trade either, but I don't see Florida budging unless one of those names are brought up


That’s why the title is “crazy idea that will never happen”
Lol 😂 I wouldn’t move Guentzel for very many players in the league. He’s got great chemistry with both Sid and Geno, he’s shown the ability to pop 40, and his contract is amazing!
 
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