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Debrusk and Sergachev

Created by: BeterChiarelli
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 2, 2020
Published: Apr. 3, 2020
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Description
It's all insanity and it's in no way realistic. Or is it
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
2$2,450,000
1$800,000
3$3,750,000
2$825,000
2$825,000
5$6,341,151
3$3,666,666
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,250,000
1$875,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Sergachev, Mikhail$6,341,151
2021 1st round pick
2021 3rd round pick
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Tierney, Chris [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Niederreiter, Nino
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
3.
EDM
  1. Campbell, Alexander [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Benning, Matthew [RFA Rights]
4.
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (BOS)
5.
EDM
  1. Lashoff, Brian
  2. 2021 5th round pick (DET)
6.
EDM
  1. Popugayev, Nikita [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 7th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
7.
EDM
    CBO
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$81,223,849$341,534$730,000$276,151

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $12,500,000$12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    $3,666,666$3,666,666
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $875,000$875,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    $875,000$875,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,167,000$4,167,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
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    $2,450,000$2,450,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $6,341,151$6,341,151
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,166,666$4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $850,000$850,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RD
    RFA - 3
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $700,000$700,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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    thats a sexy looking lineup
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Remove the pick and maybe BOS accepts
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:34 p.m.
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    i wouldnt trade for nino, his cap hit is just too big
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    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
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    AA will NOT resign for same$.
    At least 3.5-4.0..-~
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: BootBoi
    AA will NOT resign for same$.
    At least 3.5-4.0..-~


    Than he can sit out so his defensive stats don't get worse.
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    Apr. 3, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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    This all seems fairly realistic to me except the Bruins trade, really can't see them trading Debrusk for a dman.
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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    The difference between a 33-point, first pairing defenseman and a 35-point, third line winger is a 3rd?? What planet are you from?
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
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    Your basically staying Tierney is worth the difference of drafting between 20-25 in the 1st round and drafting 33 and 40-45 in the 2nd round. AKA you make his value out to be around a 6th. Tierney would cost you probably your 1st since it would be pretty far into the round
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Your basically staying Tierney is worth the difference of drafting between 20-25 in the 1st round and drafting 33 and 40-45 in the 2nd round. AKA you make his value out to be around a 6th. Tierney would cost you probably your 1st since it would be pretty far into the round


    Nobody has EVER moved up from 40 to 20 for just a 6th. Look it up.

    The Oilers 1st will be #20. Tierney isn't worth that.
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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    Than he can sit out so his defensive stats don't get worse.


    You know he and Holland weren't exactly buddies in Detroit. I can see signing AA as a problem. I'm shocked he traded for him.
    Apr. 3, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.
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    You know he and Holland weren't exactly buddies in Detroit. I can see signing AA as a problem. I'm shocked he traded for him.


    That is what I heard as well, but I am not in the dressing room.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Remove the pick and maybe BOS accepts


    Your value assessment is straight trash these days. Take a break.

    Quoting: kafle22
    i wouldnt trade for nino, his cap hit is just too big


    It's more than manageable over the two seasons he'd be an Oiler. The cap would clearly go up next season and Larsson's cap hit alone coming off the books is enough to cover a raise for RNH and Yamamoto.

    Quoting: BootBoi
    AA will NOT resign for same$.
    At least 3.5-4.0..-~


    There's no incentive for Athanasiou to ask for a raise. He's close to maxing out what a third-line winger should realistically make in this league, and Edmonton's had all of seven games to determine what he is. It's a one-year prove-it deal. Players take these quite often in situations like these.

    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    This all seems fairly realistic to me except the Bruins trade, really can't see them trading Debrusk for a dman.


    I'm assuming Krug leaves or Boston really wants to load up on their back end. I keep seeing AGM's signing Edmundson for around $4M to be a top-4 option, and Nurse is clearly the better option.

    Quoting: CD282
    The difference between a 33-point, first pairing defenseman and a 35-point, third line winger is a 3rd?? What planet are you from?


    You know I low-balled the offer to keep New England from sh*tting it's collective pants. I personally think a 2nd Round Pick makes up the difference: there is the matter of Nurse only having 2 years before being a UFA and Edmonton now having control over Debrusk for at least 5 years. I wanted more and started low. What else do you think needs to exist coming back?

    Quoting: Skyraider112
    Your basically staying Tierney is worth the difference of drafting between 20-25 in the 1st round and drafting 33 and 40-45 in the 2nd round. AKA you make his value out to be around a 6th. Tierney would cost you probably your 1st since it would be pretty far into the round


    It's the 20th pick in a deep draft for the 33rd and 46th picks plus Tierney. A pair of second-round picks doesn't get you the 20th overall pick. If Ottawa wants the luxury of having all of the first round picks this season, let them pay for it. I don't think Tierney is super valuable; he's a pretty run of the mill #3C. I can add a B-prospect to Ottawa if it'll make you feel better.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Your value assessment is straight trash these days. Take a break.



    It's more than manageable over the two seasons he'd be an Oiler. The cap would clearly go up next season and Larsson's cap hit alone coming off the books is enough to cover a raise for RNH and Yamamoto.



    There's no incentive for Athanasiou to ask for a raise. He's close to maxing out what a third-line winger should realistically make in this league, and Edmonton's had all of seven games to determine what he is. It's a one-year prove-it deal. Players take these quite often in situations like these.



    I'm assuming Krug leaves or Boston really wants to load up on their back end. I keep seeing AGM's signing Edmundson for around $4M to be a top-4 option, and Nurse is clearly the better option.



    You know I low-balled the offer to keep New England from sh*tting it's collective pants. I personally think a 2nd Round Pick makes up the difference: there is the matter of Nurse only having 2 years before being a UFA and Edmonton now having control over Debrusk for at least 5 years. I wanted more and started low. What else do you think needs to exist coming back?



    It's the 20th pick in a deep draft for the 33rd and 46th picks plus Tierney. A pair of second-round picks doesn't get you the 20th overall pick. If Ottawa wants the luxury of having all of the first round picks this season, let them pay for it. I don't think Tierney is super valuable; he's a pretty run of the mill #3C. I can add a B-prospect to Ottawa if it'll make you feel better.


    Dude BOS is already strong at defense, they don't need another d-man. And they don't need to trade a forward, let alone a young one in DeBrusk. The value isn't bad, but it doesn't help BOS
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    Apr. 5, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Dude BOS is already strong at defense, they don't need another d-man. And they don't need to trade a forward, let alone a young one in DeBrusk. The value isn't bad, but it doesn't help BOS


    That's all built on the pretense that Krug actually stays in Boston. Not guaranteed: if he wanted to, he'd likely have an extension by now.

    I've also been seeing Bruins AGMs signing Joel Edmundson to 4x4 deals or resigning Chara to play top-4 minutes. Keep telling me they don't need blueliners and I'll show you someone that doesn't recognize the Boston system.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Your value assessment is straight trash these days. Take a break.



    It's more than manageable over the two seasons he'd be an Oiler. The cap would clearly go up next season and Larsson's cap hit alone coming off the books is enough to cover a raise for RNH and Yamamoto.



    There's no incentive for Athanasiou to ask for a raise. He's close to maxing out what a third-line winger should realistically make in this league, and Edmonton's had all of seven games to determine what he is. It's a one-year prove-it deal. Players take these quite often in situations like these.



    I'm assuming Krug leaves or Boston really wants to load up on their back end. I keep seeing AGM's signing Edmundson for around $4M to be a top-4 option, and Nurse is clearly the better option.



    You know I low-balled the offer to keep New England from sh*tting it's collective pants. I personally think a 2nd Round Pick makes up the difference: there is the matter of Nurse only having 2 years before being a UFA and Edmonton now having control over Debrusk for at least 5 years. I wanted more and started low. What else do you think needs to exist coming back?



    It's the 20th pick in a deep draft for the 33rd and 46th picks plus Tierney. A pair of second-round picks doesn't get you the 20th overall pick. If Ottawa wants the luxury of having all of the first round picks this season, let them pay for it. I don't think Tierney is super valuable; he's a pretty run of the mill #3C. I can add a B-prospect to Ottawa if it'll make you feel better.


    Even if Krug leaves I just don't see them trading Debrusk for dman, they were needing to add a top 6 winger for the longest time so they're not trading one now plus Debrusk is young, just don't see him being moved out, if he was traded who replaces him on Krejci's wing, really don't see teams filling one hole by digging another very often and to me that's all this would be for Boston.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Even if Krug leaves I just don't see them trading Debrusk for dman, they were needing to add a top 6 winger for the longest time so they're not trading one now plus Debrusk is young, just don't see him being moved out, if he was traded who replaces him on Krejci's wing, really don't see teams filling one hole by digging another very often and to me that's all this would be for Boston.


    Debrusk is - by the numbers - a third line winger however. Nurse is a poor-man's top pairing defender and would do wonders to insulate Vaakanainen until he was top-4 ready. Would this trade free up Boston's ability to perhaps take a shot at signing Hall or Hoffman to fill that gap?
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Debrusk is - by the numbers - a third line winger however. Nurse is a poor-man's top pairing defender and would do wonders to insulate Vaakanainen until he was top-4 ready. Would this trade free up Boston's ability to perhaps take a shot at signing Hall or Hoffman to fill that gap?


    Nurse is set to make $5.6M so I don't think this move would allow for that but maybe.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 4:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Nurse is set to make $5.6M so I don't think this move would allow for that but maybe.


    Again, I'm seeing Bruins AGMs add about $4M worth of defenceman to play in a top-4 role. Coupled with whatever Debrusk is getting and the remaining $3M-ish that most of those AGMs tend to have, and I think they'd be fine.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Again, I'm seeing Bruins AGMs add about $4M worth of defenceman to play in a top-4 role. Coupled with whatever Debrusk is getting and the remaining $3M-ish that most of those AGMs tend to have, and I think they'd be fine.


    Do a Bruins post with this trade and signing one of Hoffman or Hall and see how it goes over with the CapFriendly critics.. Lol
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli

    You know I low-balled the offer to keep New England from sh*tting it's collective pants. I personally think a 2nd Round Pick makes up the difference: there is the matter of Nurse only having 2 years before being a UFA and Edmonton now having control over Debrusk for at least 5 years. I wanted more and started low. What else do you think needs to exist coming back?


    Nothing: I wouldn't trade Nurse for a 3rd line winger at all. I think the entire proposal is incredibly Chiarelli-esque.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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    Nothing: I wouldn't trade Nurse for a 3rd line winger at all. I think the entire proposal is incredibly Chiarelli-esque.


    So then this comes down to how we view Nurse? Or is it Debrusk?

    You specifically referred to him as a top-pairing defender. I don't think he's much more than a quality second-pairing defender, but that's more due to me thinking he doesn't have the complete toolkit to be a number one guy. If the issue is Debrusk, by all means name another winger, and I'd happily make the move. I went for Debrusk due to his playstyle and affordability. I'd rather a Domi or an established top-six winger, but it's an issue with cap hits at that point.
    Apr. 5, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.
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    So then this comes down to how we view Nurse? Or is it Debrusk?

    You specifically referred to him as a top-pairing defender. I don't think he's much more than a quality second-pairing defender, but that's more due to me thinking he doesn't have the complete toolkit to be a number one guy. If the issue is Debrusk, by all means name another winger, and I'd happily make the move. I went for Debrusk due to his playstyle and affordability. I'd rather a Domi or an established top-six winger, but it's an issue with cap hits at that point.


    A "quality second-pairing defender" still has about 3x the value of a 3rd line winger. The trade is really, really far off base.
     
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