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Unpopular opinion Zibanejad is good because of panarin

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Atkinson is bad now, but when he played with Panarin he was a 60 point guy.
last season Zibanejad could have just had a career season. IMO he is a 50-60 point guy without panarin.
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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we all already know this.

but 50-60 points is pretty good. He hasn't really had any top end talent, so the fact that he got this before an elite talent is very respectable.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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I’m pretty sure zibanejad played with kreider as his lw for a majority of the season.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
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Less of an "unpopular" opinion. More of an "uneducated" opinion. Zibanejad only spent 30% of his Ice Time with Panarin. He spent double that with Buchnevich and Kreider.

Considering this is how well you're doing the research before giving an opinion, this is kinda an automatic "add to ignore" level comment.
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Less of an "unpopular" opinion. More of an "uneducated" opinion. Zibanejad only spent 30% of his Ice Time with Panarin. He spent double that with Buchnevich and Kreider.

Considering this is how well you're doing the research before giving an opinion, this is kinda an automatic "add to ignore" level comment.


30% of ice time does not matter it's the amount of points he get's with Panarin in those amount of games. notice how his play started to accelerate later on in the season. also if Panarin makes ryan strome look like an elite player he surly makes zibby a lot better than he actually is.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Less of an "unpopular" opinion. More of an "uneducated" opinion. Zibanejad only spent 30% of his Ice Time with Panarin. He spent double that with Buchnevich and Kreider.

Considering this is how well you're doing the research before giving an opinion, this is kinda an automatic "add to ignore" level comment.


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Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:35 p.m.
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30% of ice time does not matter it's the amount of points he get's with Panarin in those amount of games. notice how his play started to accelerate later on in the season. also if Panarin makes ryan strome look like an elite player he surly makes zibby a lot better than he actually is.


At 5v5, Panarin assisted on 4 of Zibs goals. On the flip side Zibs assisted on 2 of Panarin's goals.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
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At 5v5, Panarin assisted on 4 of Zibs goals. On the flip side Zibs assisted on 2 of Panarin's goals.


yes, Panarin is more of a play maker
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:39 p.m.
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30% of ice time does not matter it's the amount of points he get's with Panarin in those amount of games. notice how his play started to accelerate later on in the season. also if Panarin makes ryan strome look like an elite player he surly makes zibby a lot better than he actually is.


...Zibanejad has had 43 Even Strength points....Panarin has contributed to 11 of them.


Thank you for your comment. It makes it so that I can now add you to the ignore list lol.
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:40 p.m.
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Only time they play together is power play please get ur facts right. Obviously clueless about hockey
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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Na. Zibanejad was already reaching the PPG stratosphere before Panarin. With Panarin around he'll reach 90 ppg mostly because the opposition will have to focus as much on shutting down Panarin's line so MZ will get nights when the matchups favor him. Also he'll get more pts on the PP playing with AP and vice versa. We could also argue that having MZ around propelled AP to 90 pts. But we could counter that argument with...both players have simply naturally progressed to higher levels regardless of each other's presence.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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yes, Panarin is more of a play maker


What's also interesting is how uneducated this Atkinson/Panarin opinion is also.

Atkinson's drop in production is entirely tied to shooting percentage...

Atkinson's assists/60

2018-19: 0.99
2019-20: 0.95

Shot attempts/60

2018-19: 17.68
2019-20: 17.43

Shooting Percentage

2018-19: 12.69
2019-20: 5.66


This would be a decent troll post, but it just kinda ends up being sad because you actually think this stuff...
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:12 p.m.
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The guy scored 74 pts last season WITHOUT Panarin and even this season he's been playing with Panarin mostly on the PP and that's it. Dude, you're the kind of person who probably thinks that Draisaitl is good simply because he plays with McDavid
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:13 p.m.
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Na. Zibanejad was already reaching the PPG stratosphere before Panarin. With Panarin around he'll reach 90 ppg mostly because the opposition will have to focus as much on shutting down Panarin's line so MZ will get nights when the matchups favor him. Also he'll get more pts on the PP playing with AP and vice versa. We could also argue that having MZ around propelled AP to 90 pts. But we could counter that argument with...both players have simply naturally progressed to higher levels regardless of each other's presence.


With Panarin he gets to 50 goals easily and over 100 pts
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
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yes, Panarin is more of a play maker


5v5 Panarin has factored in 14% of Zibs points, but he's good because of Panarin?
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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I’m pretty sure zibanejad played with kreider as his lw for a majority of the season.


He did. His linemates have been Kreider and Buchnevich. Not exactly elite...
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
With Panarin he gets to 50 goals easily and over 100 pts


Playing on a line with Panarin?
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
30% of ice time does not matter it's the amount of points he get's with Panarin in those amount of games. notice how his play started to accelerate later on in the season. also if Panarin makes ryan strome look like an elite player he surly makes zibby a lot better than he actually is.


TAKE A SEAT
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.
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Playing on a line with Panarin?


Yup
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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This guy got owned
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Yup


No doubt. But since they can put up numbers 5v5 on separate lines, I'd keep it that way. Spread out the talent. MZ is getting PAID when his extension comes up.
Apr. 3, 2020 at 8:52 p.m.
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No doubt. But since they can put up numbers 5v5 on separate lines, I'd keep it that way. Spread out the talent. MZ is getting PAID when his extension comes up.


Agreed 100%
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.
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This guy got owned


He had to. That's nuts
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Apr. 3, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
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yall salty its just my opinion
Apr. 3, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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The guy scored 74 pts last season WITHOUT Panarin and even this season he's been playing with Panarin mostly on the PP and that's it. Dude, you're the kind of person who probably thinks that Draisaitl is good simply because he plays with McDavid


Mcdavid helped develop drai into the good player he is today. your right tho, now he is good on his own
Apr. 3, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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...Zibanejad has had 43 Even Strength points....Panarin has contributed to 11 of them.


Thank you for your comment. It makes it so that I can now add you to the ignore list lol.


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