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Post Covid Oil 2

Created by: Wilbur
Initial Creation Date: Apr 4, 2020
Published: Apr 4 at 11:51 am
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
Note: In the scenario Jeff Carter & Shea Weber are signed as a compliance buy-out Free Agent, because these guys want to win the Cup

Last season Ken Holland added 18/32 to the roster.
In this scenario he adds 13 including Puljujarvi
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Berglund, Filip3$875,000
Niemeläinen, Markus3$825,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse2$1,250,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Athanasiou, Andreas5$3,300,000
Bear, Ethan3$2,950,000
Cave, Colby3$700,000
Kuffner, Ryan3$700,000
Lagesson, William3$750,000
Benning, Matthew3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Russell, Patrick2$700,000
Starrett, Shane2$750,000
Currie, Josh2$700,000
Maroon, Patrick2$875,000
Quine, Alan2$700,000
Nieto, Matt2$975,000
Karlsson, Melker2$900,000
Pietrangelo, Alex6$10,000,000
Lehner, Robin5$7,000,000
Khudobin, Anton2$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Carter, Jeff2$1,500,000
Weber, Shea2$950,000
Trades
EDM
    ANA
    1. Neal, James
    2. Russell, Kris
    Additional Details:
    Compliance Buy Out
    EDM
    1. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
    2. 2020 5th round pick (TBL)
    OTT
    1. Chiasson, Alex
    2. Khaira, Jujhar
    EDM
    1. Kuokkanen, Janne
    2. Mcleod, Michael
    3. 2020 4th round pick (BOS)
    4. 2021 3rd round pick (ARI)
    NJD
    1. Koskinen, Mikko
    2. Benning, Matthew
    EDM
    1. Howarth, Kale [Reserve List]
    2. 2020 5th round pick (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Archibald, Josh
    EDM
    1. O'Reilly, Ryan [Reserve List]
    2. 2020 3rd round pick (SJS)
    3. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
    DET
    1. Larsson, Adam
    2. Kassian, Zack ($500,000 retained)
    EDM
    1. Gallagher, Brendan ($750,000 retained)
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
    MTL
    1. Athanasiou, Andreas
    2. Lavoie, Raphael
    3. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
    4. 2020 3rd round pick (SJS)
    Buyouts
    • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
    • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Zack Kassian: $500,000 (15.63%)
    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2020
    WSH
    STL
    EDM
    WPG
    BOS
    EDM
    TBL
    CBJ
    EDM
    EDM
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    ARI
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$80,000,000$78,994,498$0$762,500$1,005,502

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Maroon, Patrick
    $875,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 6
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    $3,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    EDM
    Yamamoto, Kailer
    $894,166
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Nieto, Matt
    $975,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    Carter, Jeff
    $1,500,000
    EDM
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    $1,250,000
    RW
    RFA
    EDM
    Nygård, Joakim
    $875,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Quine, Alan
    $700,000
    C
    UFA
    Karlsson, Melker
    $900,000
    RW, C
    UFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Pietrangelo, Alex
    $10,000,000
    RD
    UFA
    Lehner, Robin
    $7,000,000
    G
    UFA
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    $5,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Weber, Shea
    $950,000
    Khudobin, Anton
    $2,000,000
    G
    UFA
    EDM
    Jones, Caleb
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    $2,950,000
    RD
    RFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    EDM
    Lagesson, William
    $750,000
    LD
    RFA
    NJD
    Mcleod, Michael
    $863,333
    C
    RFA - 1
    NJD
    Kuokkanen, Janne
    $811,666
    C, LW
    RFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Gallagher, B.
    Draisaitl, L.
    Pietrangelo, A.
    McDavid, C.
    Power Play 2
    Yamamoto, K.
    Maroon, P.
    Carter, J.
    Weber, S.
    Puljujärvi, J.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Quine, A.
    Karlsson, M.
    Nurse, D.
    Pietrangelo, A.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Nieto, M.
    Klefbom, O.
    Bear, E.

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    Apr 4 at 12:16
    #1
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    Detroit declines those picks are just too important to trade.
    Apr 4 at 12:22
    #2
    Fire Lindy Ruff
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Detroit declines those picks are just too important to trade.


    And even then EDM isn't moving Kassian so...¨
    And if they move Larsson they must get a roster player or two back
    Apr 4 at 12:28
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    And even then EDM isn't moving Kassian so...¨
    And if they move Larsson they must get a roster player or two back


    Ok a player or two for Larsson? Maybe Neilson and Abdelkader.
    Apr 4 at 12:30
    #4
    Fire Lindy Ruff
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok a player or two for Larsson? Maybe Neilson and Abdelkader.


    tears of joy tears of joy Holland learnt from his mistakes
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    Apr 4 at 2:33
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    Habs don't need another LW or a young center, they would like a top-4 D like Nurse for example. Besides Gallagher would not be available; Tatar is a realistic option.
    Apr 4 at 3:57
    #6
    Kafle
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    man this is terrible
    there will most likely be a cbo so get russell out of there
    chaisson and khaira arent worth a third and a fifth, more like a fifth and a sixth
    Personal opinion but i would keep koshkinen
    I would take arcibald over poolparty becuase archi can play solid pk
    Dont know why red wings would want larsson and kassian, they are still rebuilding
    Montreal wont take a -46 dude
    Apr 5 at 2:52
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Detroit declines those picks are just too important to trade.


    is
    Quoting: aedoran
    Detroit declines those picks are just too important to trade.


    These picks will have no relevance to the team for at least or 3 years, if they make it all. Do you know that the likelihood of these picks being a regular NHL player is around 12-15%? Depending on the team, real NHL players are more important than picks, especially when they have several. Larsson would be the best Dman in Detroit.
    Apr 5 at 2:54
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok a player or two for Larsson? Maybe Neilson and Abdelkader.


    Compliance buyouts, Edm looking to clear salary, not looking for players
    Apr 5 at 2:58
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    Quoting: RoyBoy71
    Habs don't need another LW or a young center, they would like a top-4 D like Nurse for example. Besides Gallagher would not be available; Tatar is a realistic option.


    Lavoie is a RW, not a C.

    Drouin would be a compliance buy-out. The cheaper, better scoring AA takes his spot.

    If Gallagher wants he can return after 1 season, this would be a good haul for the Have.
    Apr 5 at 3:41
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    Quoting: kafle22
    man this is terrible
    there will most likely be a cbo so get russell out of there - Did it
    chaisson and khaira arent worth a third and a fifth, more like a fifth and a sixth - A top NHL PP unit player and Cup champion + Top NHL PKer are worth it, especially with so many draft picks to use
    Personal opinion but i would keep koshkinen - Lehner is much younger and much better, Halak is better and cheaper
    I would take arcibald over poolparty becuase archi can play solid pk - Replaced Arch with 2 better and cheaper PKers
    Dont know why red wings would want larsson and kassian, they are still rebuilding
    Montreal wont take a -46 dude


    Quoting: kafle22
    man this is terrible
    there will most likely be a cbo so get russell out of there
    chaisson and khaira arent worth a third and a fifth, more like a fifth and a sixth
    Personal opinion but i would keep koshkinen
    I would take arcibald over poolparty becuase archi can play solid pk
    Dont know why red wings would want larsson and kassian, they are still rebuilding
    Montreal wont take a -46 dude


    Really?
    Already bought out Russell, did you look?
    Chiasson net front presence on historical PP unit, versatile and Cup Champion means something to a young team and coaches/GMs. Khaira was a top PKer, these players are worth it, especially when they have plenty of of to spare
    Lehner is younger and better, Khodobin is better and cheaper
    Replaced Archibald with cheaper and better PKers. JP averaged more than 6.5 shots per game in Liiga, he had nearly 100 more shots than the 2nd most guy in the League. He scored 12 goals as an 18 year old rookie, same number as JA's best. He is 6'4" and flies and he is only 22, Archibald was 26 when he played his first full season what do you want on your team?
    Toughness, experience and leadership, Yzerman knows this stuff
    AA's old GM traded for him, he scored 30 goals last year. He is better and cheaper than Drouin
    Apr 5 at 3:43
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    And even then EDM isn't moving Kassian so...¨
    And if they move Larsson they must get a roster player or two back


    Kassian is from Windsor, it across the bridge from Detroit. In this scenario Edm is clearing, no players wanted
    Apr 5 at 5:20
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    Edited Apr 5 at 5:26
    Quoting: Wilbur
    is

    These picks will have no relevance to the team for at least or 3 years, if they make it all. Do you know that the likelihood of these picks being a regular NHL player is around 12-15%? Depending on the team, real NHL players are more important than picks, especially when they have several. Larsson would be the best Dman in Detroit.


    Yzerman is building through the draft so yes those picks are more important to Detroit than Larsson and Kassian. Detroit would resign Daley before trading for Larsson and he isn't that good. A rebuilding is going to trade picks for a 30 it makes no sense. Plus I like what I've seen from Ryan O'Riley so far. This is a very lopsided trade and it won't happen.

    Do you see how I can reply without double quoting? You should try it.
    Apr 5 at 11:58
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    Yzerman also knows what players like Larsson are worth to young teams. Draft picks of course are important, but 90% never play an NHL game, actual proven NHL players are more important and Detroit is overflowing with picks and prospects, but not so much in the actual NHL department: they can easily and comfortably afford this.

    Trevor Daley is 9 years older than Larsson and hasn't played a full season in 4 yrs. Larsson would be the best Dman in Detroit, in fact Toronto was willing to trade a 1st rounder for him this season. That might hold a clue about how good he is.

    Larsson is 27, Kassian is 29, Kassian, who is a very fast player (this will be something he will still be able to do in his last season) is 4 years younger than 7 current roster players, so that's another pretty weak argument.

    Lopsided? LOL, reminds me of the argument you made about AA's value a few weeks before the trade, lol. I was pretty close on that one, but you laughed then too.....

    Also, Ryan O'Rielly was ranked by knowledgable Wings bloggers as the 24th prospect and even this assessment got a lot of criticism. He is very low on their prospect totem pole actually, which is why I picked him. I probably should have gone for Joe Veleno instead....but he's not looking very good as a prospect so far, either.

    You've got a criticism for everything don't you? Sorry about my sentence structure and use of punctuation.
    Apr 5 at 2:12
    #14
    Kafle
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    Quoting: Wilbur
    Really?
    Already bought out Russell, did you look?
    Chiasson net front presence on historical PP unit, versatile and Cup Champion means something to a young team and coaches/GMs. Khaira was a top PKer, these players are worth it, especially when they have plenty of of to spare
    Lehner is younger and better, Khodobin is better and cheaper
    Replaced Archibald with cheaper and better PKers. JP averaged more than 6.5 shots per game in Liiga, he had nearly 100 more shots than the 2nd most guy in the League. He scored 12 goals as an 18 year old rookie, same number as JA's best. He is 6'4" and flies and he is only 22, Archibald was 26 when he played his first full season what do you want on your team?
    Toughness, experience and leadership, Yzerman knows this stuff
    AA's old GM traded for him, he scored 30 goals last year. He is better and cheaper than Drouin


    First of all, I meant to say that there will only be one cbo so you use it for neal and leave russell out. I agree with your judgement of chaisson but not khaira, Khaira is a terrible player, he's too slow, he's a liabilty in even strength and the play dies whenever the puck is on his hand. Another thing is that he lost his top pk role to shenhan and archibald( because they are more effective)

    I dont think if you have noticed but poolparty plays in the finnish league, A league that is really similar to the echl, so by stating the fact that he averages 6.5 per game means nothing
    Apr 6 at 1:15
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    First, just so you know I am a hardcore Oilers and hockey fan and I know every single Oilers player and prospect very well. I watch AHL, ECHL, Jr, College and Euro league games. I haven't missed an Oilers game in 10 years. I also know the NHL very well, so this is my version of what a Stanley Cup team looks like.

    So you know, given the economic impacts, there is a very real possibility of 2 CBO's, this is being seriously considered, so this roster reflects that possibility.

    Khaira struggled a lot this season but was playing much better the last 3-5 weeks. He is a much better player than he showed this season in fact was playing 4C his last few games. Despite his struggles he was a very consistent and reliable PKer with RNH on the second unit, this and his ability to play bottom 6 C is where his value is.

    Liiga is superior to the ECHL and is a low scoring league. Any player that averages 3 shots per game in any league is a dominant player. To lead any league in shooting by such a margin simply means he is a very good player. He is still very very young and that also is very important to remember. As much as I like Archibald, he will be out of the league in 3 years and JP will be at least a 50 point NHL player, so a top 50 player in the NHL.
     
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