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Toronto and Pittsburgh under cap combined deadliest team in the NHL

Created by: jassan28
Initial Creation Date: Apr 4, 2020
Published: Apr 4 at 10:20 pm
Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,008,125$0$850,000$491,875
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2

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Apr 4 at 10:25
#1
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Nylander and Marner have been better than J.T this season. In their primes J.T is better but I would put Marner or Nylander their
Apr 4 at 10:31
#2
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Nylander and Marner have been better than J.T this season. In their primes J.T is better but I would put Marner or Nylander their


I agree add Nylander instead of J.T. and use the 4 million saved to build a 23 team roster.
Apr 4 at 10:32
#3
Isles7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 4,430
Likes: 1,646
I would add guentzel, nylander and McCann. Remove Tavares and kerfoot
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Apr 4 at 10:32
#4
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Nylander and Marner have been better than J.T this season. In their primes J.T is better but I would put Marner or Nylander their


I definitely agree with marner making it over JT.
Apr 4 at 10:43
#5
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,625
Likes: 2,068
Jake is the best winger on either team.
#facts
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Apr 4 at 10:44
#6
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 618
Likes: 137
Tampa Boston > Toronto Pittsburgh

Stamkos - Point - Kucherov

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak

DeBrusk - Cirelli - Coleman

Killorn - Krejci - Palat

Hedman - Krug

McDonagh - McAvoy

Sergachev - Shattenkirk

Carlo

Vasilievsky - Rask
Apr 4 at 11:08
#7
Thread Starter
GoCanada
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 3,398
Likes: 382
Quoting: PLDGEY
Tampa Boston > Toronto Pittsburgh

Stamkos - Point - Kucherov

Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak

DeBrusk - Cirelli - Coleman

Killorn - Krejci - Palat

Hedman - Krug

McDonagh - McAvoy

Sergachev - Shattenkirk

Carlo

Vasilievsky - Rask


I'll make one and see if their the best under cap
Apr 5 at 1:20
#8
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 618
Likes: 137
Quoting: jassan28
I'll make one and see if their the best under cap


My genuine apologies, I didnt consider the cap. Ill have to take another look
Apr 5 at 2:10
#9
mhockey91
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 9,605
Likes: 3,068
Quoting: Isles777
I would add guentzel, nylander and McCann. Remove Tavares and kerfoot


Exactly what I was thinking.

Jake-Crosby-Nylander
Matthews-Malkin-Rust
Hyman-McCann-Kap
Mik-Blueger-Simon

Dumo-Letang
Rielly-Marino
Petty-Holl
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Apr 5 at 10:27
#10
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Quoting: pharrow
Jake is the best winger on either team.
#facts


That’s an interesting take actually cuz a week ago, I made a “who’s better” player discussion & one of the comparisons was between Marner & Guentzel. The majority of people who participated said Marner was better, which surprised me a bit. Based on this season’s performance, I think Guentzel was significantly better, however, I think they are actually very close overall. Jake probably has the edge due to his playoff performances. I’d expect Marner to have the higher ceiling though.

Who’d you guys think is better?

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Apr 5 at 12:28
#11
Joined: Apr 2018
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If I had to pick one to send out on the ice, I'd pick Marner. But, if making a team with the cap, Guentzel without pause.
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Apr 5 at 12:57
#12
claysbar
Joined: Feb 2017
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
That’s an interesting take actually cuz a week ago, I made a “who’s better” player discussion & one of the comparisons was between Marner & Guentzel. The majority of people who participated said Marner was better, which surprised me a bit. Based on this season’s performance, I think Guentzel was significantly better, however, I think they are actually very close overall. Jake probably has the edge due to his playoff performances. I’d expect Marner to have the higher ceiling though.

Who’d you guys think is better?

@mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @Pens3lieve @AFOX10900 @datools @MajesticWalrus @Yojimbo @Jesus @claysbar


Gotta go with JG for multiple reasons. 1) Cap cost 2) Team player (see cap cost) 3) Hockey sense, he has that knack to be where the puck is gonna be (see Gretzky, Mario, Bure etc) Not saying he's gonna be on their level but he has that mojo. You can't go wrong with either considering their PPG but to me it's hands down JG.
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Apr 5 at 1:12
#13
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 709
Likes: 341
I absolutely despise Toronto, so this is like mixing oil and water with CF being the emulsifier. (blame my chemistry teacher) I just dislike AM. And who coaches this team? Under Sully some of these tor. guys wouldn't fit because they're not responsible defensively. Anders Frederickson is overrated. As a diehard pens fan, it's hard to mix my team with one I dislike, but my lines would be:
Guentzel-Crosby-Rust
Malkin-Tavares-Marner
Zucker-McCann-kappanen
Aston-Reese-Blueger-Tanev

Dumoulin-Letang
Reilly-Marino
Muzzin-Holl

David Ayers(Zamboni Goalie)
Murray

That's over cap, IK, but it's a fake team so cap really doesn't matter.
Apr 5 at 1:15
#14
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 709
Likes: 341
It’s been 29,332 days since the leafs won the cup. BTW There were 6 teams in the NHL when that happened. It has been 42 days since the leafs got beat by an AHL zamboni driver.
Apr 5 at 1:16
#15
Hockey IQ
Joined: May 2019
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Likes: 341
Quoting: claysbar
Gotta go with JG for multiple reasons. 1) Cap cost 2) Team player (see cap cost) 3) Hockey sense, he has that knack to be where the puck is gonna be (see Gretzky, Mario, Bure etc) Not saying he's gonna be on their level but he has that mojo. You can't go wrong with either considering their PPG but to me it's hands down JG.


My sentiments exactly.
Apr 5 at 1:39
#16
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: claysbar
Gotta go with JG for multiple reasons. 1) Cap cost 2) Team player (see cap cost) 3) Hockey sense, he has that knack to be where the puck is gonna be (see Gretzky, Mario, Bure etc) Not saying he's gonna be on their level but he has that mojo. You can't go wrong with either considering their PPG but to me it's hands down JG.


Quoting: Pens3lieve
My sentiments exactly.


Yeah I agree. Jake thinks the game similarly to Gretzky & his work off the puck is tremendous, that’s why both centers he plays alongside work very well with him. Jake took a discount to win with his team like MacKinnon. He could’ve easily got 10-12 million.
Apr 5 at 3:12
#17
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Yeah I agree. Jake thinks the game similarly to Gretzky & his work off the puck is tremendous, that’s why both centers he plays alongside work very well with him. Jake took a discount to win with his team like MacKinnon. He could’ve easily got 10-12 million.


I love Guentzel as much as anyone but I wouldn’t make a Gretzky comparison...Jake wouldn’t get anywhere close to 10 mil unless he was a UFA at 28 with 4 40-goal seasons under his belt. He did take a discount though. I wish we could clone him.
Apr 5 at 3:52
#18
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I love Guentzel as much as anyone but I wouldn’t make a Gretzky comparison...Jake wouldn’t get anywhere close to 10 mil unless he was a UFA at 28 with 4 40-goal seasons under his belt. He did take a discount though. I wish we could clone him.


I think Kevin Fiala of Minnesota plays the game a lot like Jake Guentzel. He seems to be more flashy but he's smart in a similar way.
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Apr 5 at 4:09
#19
Hockey IQ
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I think Kevin Fiala of Minnesota plays the game a lot like Jake Guentzel. He seems to be more flashy but he's smart in a similar way.

I was lobbying for fiala earlier in the season when he was stinking...then he was one of the hottest players in the NHL and I said I told you so...lol
Apr 5 at 4:13
#20
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I was lobbying for fiala earlier in the season when he was stinking...then he was one of the hottest players in the NHL and I said I told you so...lol


Yeah @Sidstick87 has been after him for a long time.
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Apr 5 at 4:25
#21
Thread Starter
GoCanada
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Quoting: PLDGEY
My genuine apologies, I didnt consider the cap. Ill have to take another look


Just made one, you were right!
Apr 5 at 4:29
#22
Thread Starter
GoCanada
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Yeah @Sidstick87 has been after him for a long time.


Marner is good not because he is a star himself but because he complements stars really well. Matthews going for 60 goals this season and Tavares having his career best when Marner was his linemate. He also made Kadri look dazzling.
Apr 5 at 4:38
#23
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: jassan28
Marner is good not because he is a star himself but because he complements stars really well. Matthews going for 60 goals this season and Tavares having his career best when Marner was his linemate. He also made Kadri look dazzling.


Yes I agree Kadri & Marner were unreal together during their short period. That doesn’t get talked about enough.
Apr 6 at 1:56
#24
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
That’s an interesting take actually cuz a week ago, I made a “who’s better” player discussion & one of the comparisons was between Marner & Guentzel. The majority of people who participated said Marner was better, which surprised me a bit. Based on this season’s performance, I think Guentzel was significantly better, however, I think they are actually very close overall. Jake probably has the edge due to his playoff performances. I’d expect Marner to have the higher ceiling though.

Who’d you guys think is better?

@mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @Pens3lieve @AFOX10900 @datools @MajesticWalrus @Yojimbo @Jesus @claysbar


I say Marner is better. Jake is definitely a better goal scorer than Marner but Marner is a player that can run a line by himself with his playmaking ability. Also he's fantastic on defense
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Apr 6 at 11:09
#25
Marner Stan Account
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Quoting: Jesus
I say Marner is better. Jake is definitely a better goal scorer than Marner but Marner is a player that can run a line by himself with his playmaking ability. Also he's fantastic on defense


That’s a fair point. Marner is definitely very good in possession.
 
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