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Make Offers for Sergachev and Cirelli

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Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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How bout an offer sheet?
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Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.
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ryan strome, carolina first and next year second for cirelli.
Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.
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Are the bolts actually considering moving either of them over other players? Why?
I know you love Killorn but he should be the first one moved, then try and move Gourde followed by Johnson and Palat if required
Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
How bout an offer sheet?


that's probably what will happen but I'm curious what people would offer.
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Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:50 p.m.
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that's probably what will happen but I'm curious what people would offer.


You should probaby trade Sergachev at the draft. Maybe give him to Montreal for some assets. If you can't you'll just have to let Sergachev go during an offer sheet
But I say keep Cirelli. Out of the 2 keep him because he is a great 2 way
Apr. 6, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Vermathex
ryan strome, carolina first and next year second for cirelli.


No that’s too much. A first second and third is good like an offer sheet
Apr. 6, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Hedman77
that's probably what will happen but I'm curious what people would offer.


My ideal scenario would be to approach Sergachev and his agent with $6,333,333 AAV, for which the compensation is a first and a third in 2021. If acceptable, I would then offer Tampa our 2021 first and their choice of our 2020 third or the 2021 second we have from St. Louis. If the trade is made, I'd offer Sergachev his choice of 5 or 6 years.
Apr. 6, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.
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To Tor:
Sergachev (RFA)

To TB:
Andreas Johnsson
Rasmus Sandin
Jeremy Bracco
Apr. 6, 2020 at 4:50 p.m.
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Quoting: KoneDome
To Tor:
Sergachev (RFA)

To TB:
Andreas Johnsson
Rasmus Sandin
Jeremy Bracco


And how do you give him his money after ?
Apr. 6, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: KCarry74
And how do you give him his money after ?


Look at the Mcavoy and Werenski contracts, both 3 years and roughly 5m AAV. I don't think Sergachev is as good as either of those guys, so fair value for Sergachev could be a 3 year deal at 4.5m AAV.
Johnsson (3.4m) and Sandin (900k) gives you 4.3m already.
Apr. 6, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Hedman77
that's probably what will happen but I'm curious what people would offer.


You really think the Lightning will lose both Cirelli and Sergachev... in my opinion they will do everything they can to keep these two. Also I don't think either one have a reason to sign an offer sheet unless money is the only bottom line they care for. Both are integral to the team and play heavy minutes. Now how do they resign both no idea but I bet they get ultra creative before even thinking about trading either one.
Apr. 6, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
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Quoting: KoneDome
Look at the Mcavoy and Werenski contracts, both 3 years and roughly 5m AAV. I don't think Sergachev is as good as either of those guys, so fair value for Sergachev could be a 3 year deal at 4.5m AAV.
Johnsson (3.4m) and Sandin (900k) gives you 4.3m already.


At three year 4.5M the Lightning will keep Sergachev, he is alot better then people realize as he is in the shadow of Hedman but over the last 6 weeks before the shutdown he was the Lightnings best defenseman. McDonagh and Rutta going down then Hedman right at the end gave him the ice time and then confidence. He was playing 25 minutes a night at the end bodying people while playing sound defensively and picking up his offense.
Apr. 6, 2020 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: stammerman
You really think the Lightning will lose both Cirelli and Sergachev... in my opinion they will do everything they can to keep these two. Also I don't think either one have a reason to sign an offer sheet unless money is the only bottom line they care for. Both are integral to the team and play heavy minutes. Now how do they resign both no idea but I bet they get ultra creative before even thinking about trading either one.


i never said they would lose both of them
Apr. 7, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Hedman77
i never said they would lose both of them


Sorry I didn't write my thought clear enough. I don't think they will lose either... you don't let go of young core players like that. They will do everything in their power to get both of these guys under contract before they even think about a trade. I also think the players will do everything they can to re-sign since both of them are already integral parts of the team.

Its going to be a crazy summer and I am not sure how they do it but they can move Killorn with his M-NTC if needed, Paquette can be moved, Coburn can be bought out for a minimal hit and to me both Johnson and Gourde would waive their NTC if they can go somewhere to play top 6 minutes. Both of them have had their minutes cut to under 14 a game playing on the 3rd and 4th lines - but both are 2nd line players so I don't think its out of the realm of possibility one of them agrees to a trade. Then if the NHL do a compliance buyout thats even better for the team.

Whatever happens and whenever they start next season the Lightning will definitely have a different look regardless.
 
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