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Trading Strome is dumb

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Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2020
Published: Apr. 7, 2020
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My guess is that this is just a negotiation tactic to get Strome to come down on his price.


Either way, Strome is a 2nd line center who is just entering his prime. If other teams want to acquire him there needs to be some legit value coming back. We don’t want any more projects, or depth players, or draft pick fodder.
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Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:37 a.m.
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You arent getting a guy with Elite potential for a meh 2c
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:39 a.m.
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That's a no from buffalo
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:40 a.m.
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No way you're getting Cozens.

Also If they think Dach will pass Strome, I totally understand not wanting to pay Strome to be a 2C if he's going to end up as a 3C.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:41 a.m.
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Quoting: papishark
You arent getting a guy with Elite potential for a meh 2c

I don’t think Carter Hutton has “Elite Potential”, but that’s just me.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
No way you're getting Cozens.

Also If they think Dach will pass Strome, I totally understand not wanting to pay Strome to be a 2C if he's going to end up as a 3C.


Toews is getting older, and a decline is going to happen eventually.

Dach and Strome SHOULD be the number 1 and 2 (save for draft lottery luck again) and Toews will be the third line center. (In a couple years)

Seriously the guy is going to be 32, you have to hedge your bets.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:46 a.m.
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Strome is a solid 2C and shouldn’t be traded IMO, but cozens is untouchable.
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Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:46 a.m.
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lol, how do you think trading Strome is dumb if you think you could get Cozens for him
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:49 a.m.
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BUF trade is just ridiculous.
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Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:50 a.m.
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lol, how do you think trading Strome is dumb if you think you could get Cozens for him


The trade is more to demonstrate that actual value needs to be coming back…
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.
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BUF trade is just ridiculous.


That’s who I’d want in a Strome trade, this rumor has been out for a bit over a day now, and I’m tired of seeing everyone trade their junk, and pick fodder for him.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.
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Apr. 7, 2020 at 12:57 a.m.
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What in tarnation
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
That’s who I’d want in a Strome trade, this rumor has been out for a bit over a day now, and I’m tired of seeing everyone trade their junk, and pick fodder for him.


You're entitled to want something, it's very different case whether you're actually getting it. This is just a ridiculous example of what you're NOT getting.

It's been reported that CHI is not looking to get extremely high value either...
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:05 a.m.
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If Chi FO doesn't want Strome, I'd figure the move is to flip for a RHD. They prob want to sign Kubalik long term.

I could see deals for Montour, Weegar or even a Matt Roy package at the NHL level

Or something like a prospect deal for Wilde, Addison or potentially Merkley.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:08 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
You're entitled to want something, it's very different case whether you're actually getting it. This is just a ridiculous example of what you're NOT getting.

It's been reported that CHI is not looking to get extremely high value either...


The tweet said that the cost is not prohibitive. People seem to take that as basically free.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
The tweet said that the cost is not prohibitive. People seem to take that as basically free.


Out of curiosity what has been the worst Strome trade you've seen?
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
The trade is more to demonstrate that actual value needs to be coming back…


You're delusional to think that's a fair trade.

I agree that Strome should get a higher return than what he was traded FOR, but there is absolutely no way that Cozens or any other 1C potential guy is the main return. And Hutton has zero, not negative value. Cozens carries significantly more value than Strome.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
You're delusional to think that's a fair trade.

I agree that Strome should get a higher return than what he was traded FOR, but there is absolutely no way that Cozens or any other 1C potential guy is the main return. And Hutton has zero, not negative value. Cozens carries significantly more value than Strome.


Like I said, and you misunderstood, the trade is meant to demonstrate that value must be coming back in any Strome trade.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:22 a.m.
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Out of curiosity what has been the worst Strome trade you've seen?

They all blend together more or less, I don’t want to make anyone feel bad by calling out their trade in specific. I’m sure you could find some examples of my grievances.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:25 a.m.
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Like I said, and you misunderstood, the trade is meant to demonstrate that value must be coming back in any Strome trade.


No team will pay this though. Strome will stay here at that price. You might be trying to demonstrate this, and it very well could be a tactic to lower his cap value - but I really don't think that CHI is asking this in their trade talks. If they were, their GM reputation is dropping big time. Phones hanging up left and right.
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Apr. 7, 2020 at 1:29 a.m.
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Toews is getting older, and a decline is going to happen eventually.

Dach and Strome SHOULD be the number 1 and 2 (save for draft lottery luck again) and Toews will be the third line center. (In a couple years)

Seriously the guy is going to be 32, you have to hedge your bets.


Toews is still putting up numbers and I cannot see the Hawks moving him or getting rid of him. He is there and can still produce. The organization clearly trusts Dach and with the cap space being so tight, they dont want to pay Strome 2C money when he will be 3C. Also, as it stands, Hawks are #9 on the draft board and there are a lot of C in the top 10, so they could draft a C who can replace Toews down the line. They could move Strome for a really solid winger, dman or goalie, which could benefit them much more.
Apr. 7, 2020 at 7:25 a.m.
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Toews = 1C
Dach = 2C

Think we can understand why they could move him (yeah he could be a top9 C but he will get a middle-six pay then)
Apr. 7, 2020 at 7:44 a.m.
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Quoting: papishark
You arent getting a guy with Elite potential for a meh 2c


Quoting: justaBoss
BUF trade is just ridiculous.


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That's a no from buffalo


Buffalo should know more than any team that #8 OA picks can turn into Casey Mittelstadt, Alex Nylander, and yes it's possible Cozens who hasn't played 1 game in the NHL. I don't think that will be the case, but no one drafts with perfect hindsight and that goes double for BUF. What's ironic about the whole thing...Go look at each of their history. They're SCARY close to each other. Do you want a #2C today...or in 4 years? And if you think Cozens will be a #2C before then...why all the BUF trades for Strome? Doesn't make sense.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=197770
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=170174
Apr. 7, 2020 at 9:23 a.m.
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There’s no way Cozens is what’s going back. On one side, you’re trading your young Elite potential center prospect and on the other a career 2C. Cozens has a higher ceiling there, you’re overrating Strome too much.
 
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