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Dumba Take 2

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 8, 2020
Published: Apr. 8, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I love Willy. But this trade makes sense. For both teams.

Clifford resigned because Leafs have shown interest.

And this all fits gorgeously under the cap. Johnsson trade can be to any team. If no one is willing to do a 2nd. then a 3rd + 6th or 7th?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,750,000
2$700,000
2$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,400,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
3.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
LAK
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,375,750$0$400,000$124,250
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 2

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Apr. 8, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.
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Terrible trade
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Apr. 8, 2020 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Jack_
Terrible trade


I disagree. But please do elaborate.
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Apr. 8, 2020 at 7:53 p.m.
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Minny has to add
Apr. 8, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I disagree. But please do elaborate.


Nylander provides exceptional value on his contract. Dumba is pretty much tyson barrie except he has this reputation of throwing a few more hits. The majority of his value comes from the powerplay and he wouldnt get any time on the PP in Toronto. Hes brutal defensively and he isnt that effective offensively. He racks up individual points but overall he hurts his team offensively. Its the same thing with barrie where he takes tons of low percentage point shots that dont do much
Apr. 8, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Don't need an offensive defenceman
Apr. 8, 2020 at 8:48 p.m.
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Isn't this more fantasy that all other teams Dman are so mjuxh better than this Leaf? Leafs GAA 3.17, Wild 3.14. But supposedly the Leaf have to give up so much to get Dumba or Spurgeon....gee you could argue that Suter and Brodin are the two best Minni Dmen. Dumba is average to good...but worth Nylander?
Apr. 8, 2020 at 8:56 p.m.
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Baaaaaaad trade for Toronto.
Apr. 9, 2020 at 6:59 a.m.
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14m in dead cap
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Isn't this more fantasy that all other teams Dman are so mjuxh better than this Leaf? Leafs GAA 3.17, Wild 3.14. But supposedly the Leaf have to give up so much to get Dumba or Spurgeon....gee you could argue that Suter and Brodin are the two best Minni Dmen. Dumba is average to good...but worth Nylander?


Goaltending.

Dubnyk and Stalock were the worst pair for a large portion of the season on stopping shots they were expected to save. Comparing GAAs doesn't really tell the whole story when you have a goalie who can't stop a beach ball.

To answer your question though, no and I'm a Wild fan. I would not trade Nylander for Dumba straight up right now. The ship sailed on that when the Leafs couldn't sign Willy and Dumba was lighting up the league. Dumba got hurt, Willy signed a deal that honestly isn't bad and Dubas shouldn't do this.
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Apr. 9, 2020 at 7:59 a.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I disagree. But please do elaborate.


I don't agree that Nylander "provides exceptional value" at $7M, I'd say that 60-70 points is what you'd expect from a winger being paid that much and who has the opportunity to play 55% of his time with Auston Matthews and another 40% with John Tavares. It might actually be a little low when you take into account teammates... but in any case, he's got more value than Dumba. Besides, Dumba isn't the sort of defenseman Toronto needs, he's comparable to Barrie in a lot of ways.

Wrong target, too high a price.
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