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Foresight is not 2020

Created by: Pens3lieve
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2020
Published: Apr. 13, 2020
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First, this is not 2021-22. This takes it a year further or 3 years from now. This is 2022-23. Way in the future and most likely at the end of the Penguins window.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
4$2,500,000
2$850,000
6$5,500,000
3$3,000,000
2$1,500,000
3$1,500,000
3$1,500,000
3$2,500,000
3$5,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
5$6,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Malkin, Evgeni
2$7,100,000
Letang, Kris
2$5,800,000
Rust, Bryan
3$5,000,000
DeSmith, Casey
2$2,000,000
Oliver-Joseph, Pierre
3$1,500,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
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Offseason 2020
OTT
  1. Hållander, Filip
  2. Johnson, Jack
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Bjugstad, Nick
2.
PIT
    To Seattle in Expansion Draft.
    For a piece they have picked.
    A player that can help the Pens win now.
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$90,000,000$85,627,675$0$132,500$4,372,325
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Rust, Bryan
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 8
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $7,100,000$7,100,000
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    $863,333$863,333
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
    RW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Letang, Kris
    $5,800,000$5,800,000
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    DeSmith, Casey
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    Oliver-Joseph, Pierre
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.
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    I know this is crazy and we have no idea what the future holds. This is based on a ton of assumptions(prospect development/players career paths and new contract estimates/Edmonton failing so RNH wants to go to a contender/cap going up a bunch in 3 years/etc.
    Anyway let me know what you think. Is this at all a possible situation for the pens to be in in 3 years?
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 5:37 p.m.
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    Hopefully PO Joseph, Poulin, and Legare would be ready by then. This assumes Murray gets his game together and wants a big contract, which the pens won't give him. Murray and Hornqvist+picks/prospects go to Seattle for a piece to help us win now. Seattle's chances of pulling a Vegas are highly unlikely. RNH is a great C/LW. He played with Draisaitl a lot and is great defensively. If EDM pulls it together, very unlikely he leaves. But if it fails/goes mediocre a little longer and #97 and #29 get unhappy, EDM might blow it up.
    Trades are so hard to predict so I left them out for the most part. Just resigned current players and prospects (hopefully) developed.
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Thinking RNH>McCann or Malkin... Oof, I mean he wasn't bad this year, but that is still a terrible contract, just keep Malkin there, or McCann, there wouldn't be much of a difference and you save 8 mil, ZAR doesn't sign that cheap if he plays the way he did this year anyway, Legare and Poulin will have there ELC's slide I believe, so they'll be on the last year of their ELC, Letang and Marino likely get more, Jarry too unless that's the contract he signs this summer, and I wouldn't give blueger that much
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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    Thinking RNH>McCann or Malkin... Oof, I mean he wasn't bad this year, but that is still a terrible contract, just keep Malkin there, or McCann, there wouldn't be much of a difference and you save 8 mil, ZAR doesn't sign that cheap if he plays the way he did this year anyway, Legare and Poulin will have there ELC's slide I believe, so they'll be on the last year of their ELC, Letang and Marino likely get more, Jarry too unless that's the contract he signs this summer, and I wouldn't give blueger that much


    lowered the RNH deal. raised ZAR. raised Jarry. future values are hard to predict. Thanks for pointing out the legare/poulin thing. I think Letang will have to take a discount just like Malkin when their contracts are over. Danault from MTL is another player that's a FA that year and I'd like to see the pens look at if Geno moves to wing. he probably won't want to though, as he even doesn't like his wingers to go to the middle at all but to drive down the wing. See, Galchenyuk, Alex.
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Pens3lieve
    Hopefully PO Joseph, Poulin, and Legare would be ready by then. This assumes Murray gets his game together and wants a big contract, which the pens won't give him. Murray and Hornqvist+picks/prospects go to Seattle for a piece to help us win now. Seattle's chances of pulling a Vegas are highly unlikely. RNH is a great C/LW. He played with Draisaitl a lot and is great defensively. If EDM pulls it together, very unlikely he leaves. But if it fails/goes mediocre a little longer and #97 and #29 get unhappy, EDM might blow it up.
    Trades are so hard to predict so I left them out for the most part. Just resigned current players and prospects (hopefully) developed.


    I like this a lot. Very good on the Rust, Marino, Geno & Letang signings. Although the assumption is that Geno & Letang’s game will drop off quite a bit so they might even take less. Good deal for McCann too. I love the RNH signing. Would be awesome if we get him. Such a skilled, smart all round player. An elite player for sure.
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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    Thinking RNH>McCann or Malkin... Oof, I mean he wasn't bad this year, but that is still a terrible contract, just keep Malkin there, or McCann, there wouldn't be much of a difference and you save 8 mil, ZAR doesn't sign that cheap if he plays the way he did this year anyway, Legare and Poulin will have there ELC's slide I believe, so they'll be on the last year of their ELC, Letang and Marino likely get more, Jarry too unless that's the contract he signs this summer, and I wouldn't give blueger that much


    Nuge’s market value is 9 million according to the Gar-war indicator. He’s a first line player according to the chart. https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1249352102704566273?s=21
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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    Nuge’s market value is 9 million according to the Gar-war indicator. He’s a first line player according to the chart. https://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1249352102704566273?s=21


    1 yr sample size at the age of what... 26...? Trust me, you can ask Jacky and he'll tell you he's not worth 8+ mil, plus the line thing on his player cards shows what the amount of toi he's been getting equates to, not what's recommended
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: AFOX10900
    1 yr sample size at the age of what... 26...? Trust me, you can ask Jacky and he'll tell you he's not worth 8+ mil, plus the line thing on his player cards shows what the amount of toi he's been getting equates to, not what's recommended


    Thanks for letting me know.
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:38 p.m.
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    Thanks for letting me know.


    Plus one more thing, you have to look into what goes into the GAR, ik for a fact he has insanely good PPO GAR, so that will inflate the total, plus I'm pretty sure he's one of the better PKers, so that leaves his EVO and EVD GAR to be below what you'd expect compared to his total GAR
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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    If malkin is here in 2 years, he's probably taking less.
    He'll be 36 that season. I know he's a great player but time waits for no one.
    The league is slowly removing players that old out of it. I mean how many forwards can you name that are 36 and frankly still productive enough to ask for 7 million.
    It will be an interesting case to see what happens when that contract ends. I think it's a year to year deal and much lower cap hit.
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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 6:53 p.m.
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    I like the effort and creativity but its too difficult to look that far ahead
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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 8:17 p.m.
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    If malkin is here in 2 years, he's probably taking less.
    He'll be 36 that season. I know he's a great player but time waits for no one.
    The league is slowly removing players that old out of it. I mean how many forwards can you name that are 36 and frankly still productive enough to ask for 7 million.
    It will be an interesting case to see what happens when that contract ends. I think it's a year to year deal and much lower cap hit.


    yeah probably, I just went of their jersey numbers...
    Apr. 13, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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    I like the effort and creativity but its too difficult to look that far ahead


    yeah I get it...and with GMJR in charge the team will look nothing like this...just running out of posts to make...quarantine Brain.
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    Apr. 13, 2020 at 8:35 p.m.
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    Plus one more thing, you have to look into what goes into the GAR, ik for a fact he has insanely good PPO GAR, so that will inflate the total, plus I'm pretty sure he's one of the better PKers, so that leaves his EVO and EVD GAR to be below what you'd expect compared to his total GAR


    I see.
    Apr. 14, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: Pens3lieve
    @pharrow @mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @MajesticWalrus @ChampEddy @Eugene_Meltsner @acj @Sebybbq @NoWah49 @Marcsnack @MitchMarnerElite @csick @ryandrisc @TabooPenguo @Jr_pens @claysbar @PakNation7 @Missouri @schlegel @hockeygm
    and all the other penguins fans..

    I know this is crazy and we have no idea what the future holds. This is based on a ton of assumptions(prospect development/players career paths and new contract estimates/Edmonton failing so RNH wants to go to a contender/cap going up a bunch in 3 years/etc.
    Anyway let me know what you think. Is this at all a possible situation for the pens to be in in 3 years?


    I think that's a very probable situation. We can only hope Malkin asks for less cap tho. The only thing I would really change with this is I'd try to keep Murray and get rid of DeSmith. Still gotta love Mur!
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    Apr. 14, 2020 at 11:37 a.m.
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    I think that's a very probable situation. We can only hope Malkin asks for less cap tho. The only thing I would really change with this is I'd try to keep Murray and get rid of DeSmith. Still gotta love Mur!


    yes it would be nice to get Geno/Letang cheaper...I just went off their numbers...
    I'd love to keep Murray(providing he plays well)but if he performs, he'll want more than we should give him. if he plays mediocre, what's the point of keeping him then...in a cap era, the Murray situation looks like he won't be here much longer-till Seattle at best.
     
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