Some recent trades (back to last season) of Dmen

Erik Gustafsson, Dylan Demelo, Guys like that get a third

Gudbranson got an AHLer and a 7th
Nathan Beaulieu got a 6th

Moore is much closer to the second pair than the first, if you dont pay to move him you get a 5th absolute best case scenario in reality a 6th or 7th even if it upsets you

John Moore undeniably better than Gustafsson, I like Demelo a little better, but the difference is that they are on more shallow teams. So Yes, he is worth a 4th or 5th thank you.

I mean, Lou Lamoriello would give up a 4th for him so you arn't 100% wrong.

Bruins are more likely to have to pay to move him than get a 4th, especially if the cap remains flat or only sees a minor bump

Moore would get you a 4th from a " bad " or even average GM if he was making $1,75-$2M. Now, he's making $2,75M for three more years and possibly no cap increasing, he will get you a 6th in best-case. That's why I'm okay with a 7th. And picks are important but a 5th/6th/7th, it's only a pick, it's ok if we move Moore for nothing.

Moving his $2,75M+3Y is worth more than the return the Bruins could get. Think about that

DeMelo is much more capable of playing top 4 minutes than Moore. DeMelo also isn't a 3rd pair guy getting paid 250k shy of 3M for the next 3 years. How hard is it for you guys to understand that teams don't just give up a 4th for a 3rd pair guy with that kind of contract. Are your brains that small? Why isn't he traded already if it were that easy. They didnt need him all season. Let's just say he is worth a 4th without a doubt, what team is going to pay that to acquire him?

See Jack Johnson. Only 600k more annually with 1 more year on his contract than Moore and he's also very capable playing good hockey on the top pair. He won't be moved for a 6th. So what makes you think Moore would fetch a 4th? People like you give Bruins fans a bad name. Unreasonable, stubborn, and incompetent. I can think of 6 other Boston fans on here that act same way.

I didnt know contracts were the only thing that mattered! God, I mean ill take on Marners contract and a 1st for a 7th rounder everyday! Oh wait thats not how it works.

Yup! So John Moore can get a 5th! so thats fair!

Nope

Here is what you guys need to understand.
Bruins dont need him, so I am perfectly content with sending him somewhere for a 7th rounder. I want to just get rid of him.
But im putting MY PERSONAL FEELINGS ASIDE, and realizing that HIS ACTUALY CURRENT VALUE is a 4th or 5th rounder.

AGAIN: I just want to give him up for anything (6th or 7th), but no reason to lie to ourselves and say he is worth less.

well, no. That's his value to a GM who likes older guys who arnt very good because leadergrittship or whatever. To another GM he might not even be worth picking up the phone. He is also not worth that until someone pays that for him. I mean technically Andy Greene, who is aawwwwfuuuuuuul is worth a 2nd rounder because Lou gave up a 2nd rounder to get him.

Sorry i didnt know 29 was old. Might as well call EVERY player over 29 past their prime!
So im glad i know what im talking about at least, Ill keep that in mind.

But yes, a player, like john moore, who is in his prime and is a solid 2nd - 3rd dpair guy is 1000% worth a 4th or 5th

Perhaps if you'd read through all those comments to the earlier thread, you might have found them educational. Personally, the more I read, the more I learn, even if it's only not to trust the opinions of some people.

Moore is a viable bottom-pairing defenseman ON THE ICE. But that is only part of the equation that establishes his trade value. Go ahead, make your case: tell us which team(s) in the Pacific Division, for example, would be willing to ask about him at all? Certainly not Anaheim, with Lindholm, Fowler, Larsson, Guhle and Mahura on that side. Certainly not Arizona, with Ekman-Larsson, Chychrun, Oesterle and Capobianco on that side. Certainly not Calgary, with Giordano, Hanifin, Kylington and Valimaki on that side. Certainly not Edmonton, with Klefbom, Nurse, Jones and Broberg on that side. Certainly not Los Angeles, with Anderson, Bjornfot, Clague and MacDermid on that side, plus the chance of re-signing Hutton. Certainly not Vancouver, with Hughes, Edler, Juolevi and their own John Moore in the form of 2-million-dollar Jordie Benn on that side. And certainly not cap-strapped San Jose or Las Vegas (who have Theodore, McNabb, Hague and Schuldt in any event). My point is that his market is limited by those constraints others are trying to impress upon you: he is paid a lot for someone who fills his position, and he's signed for three more years. That reduces his value from your Platonic ideal of a fourth-rounder to something less.

as per the aging curve, yes 29 is past prime for defenders. and he's not a 2nd pairing guy, he's a sheltered bottom pairing guy who gets limited icetime vs weak competition and does decent at it.
he's not worth a 4th or a 5th, maybe at the deadline to a team looking for depth, but not right now, not to a gm looking for someone who can fill in on the 2nd pairing or face tough comp

Wow I can FEEL the desperation of this post through my computer.

Moore is not worth a 4th. Bruins overpaid for a guy who wasn't worth anything close to what they gave him. You're going to be stuck with him because your GM made a foolish decision. Let it go and move on.

And I can sense a little touch of schadenfreude there . . . but justified!

Totally agree and there's a multitude of solid 3rd pairing LHD available in free agency this summer that will be cheaper then Moore and will take whatever term they're given, just don't see why a team would give any pick for a 3rd pair dman making $2.75M when they could sign one for less $$ and term.

@bsilk18 I know you want to be positive/optimistic as I see during most of your posts/comments but come on, I'm not the only one saying he won't bring back a 4th/5th. The term is the thing that makes it worse. If he was UFA, you could move him at the deadline for that (even there, I wouldn't trade for him) but that's not the case. Also, more teams prefer to play young guys instead. Potential, youth, cap saving by making that.

Thank you for listing the 7 teams he wont go to. You are usually pretty spot on. how about the Habs who would love a 2nd to 3rd pair guy that isnt too expensive for his play. Or the panthers or sens who may be coming out of their rebuild after two top 5 picks in this draft and could use a guy like Moore locked up longer term for cheap. All valid options. Come on lol

Listen im not trying to be optimistic, that would be saying that he is still the 2nd line player he was with the Devils and saying he is worth a 2nd or 3rd, im just being realistic here man. He is worth a 4th or 5th. Now I, MYSELF, would trade him for a 6th or 7th becaise i want to get rid of him. But the fact that people are saying he is a cap dump is just plain stupid

Yes, all valid options, to which I would add four teams from the Central: Dallas (who might want to replace UFA Sekera while Harley works up), Minnesota (soft on the left after their top 3, and Brodin has only one more year left), Nashville, and Winnipeg. But none of them are going to pay a fourth when cheaper alternatives are available in free agency or for a lower draft pick.

If they can get a 2nd to 3rd dpair guy with that good a cap hit for a 4th of 5th, than sure! But the problem is that people arent realizing that he is a 2nd to 3rd pair guy.

Well, if you're right, then Boston should have no trouble moving him this summer, and then we'll all see.